Raskol se zahuktava

[Trifke]

пре 34 минута, александар живаљев рече

 

E ovo volim. Jasno i glasno reći! Nazvati pravim imenom stvari! 

[srb_Lo]

пре 5 часа, Bokisd рече

Da, izgleda da je vrlo komplikovana situacija u Grckoj i valjda nece prevladati ta severna struja u GC.

Није то никаква северна струја те територије су ту како су и има многих који се не слажу са деловањем Фанара . 

[Vladan :::.]

пре 8 минута, Trifke рече

E ovo volim. Jasno i glasno reći! Nazvati pravim imenom stvari! 

Али опет се врти око тога да Барт сазива неки Сабор:

"Константинопољски патријарх једини може да сазове Васељенски сабор, али ако настави са оваквим деловањем, изгубиће и ту част", сматра митрополит."

Неће Барт да сазове ништа ако није сигуран да ће бити по његовој вољи. То је ваљда очигледно. Само се губи време и продужава штета. Треба Сабор да сазове неко други а Барт ако дође дође а ако не онда ћао...

 

[srb_Lo]

Мислим да смо рекли овде доста пута да све иде преспоро . Ова је се ситуација могла решити и пре ствара са ових расколника од стране Фанара . 21 век је Цркве се могу договарати буквално сваки дан преко Интернета о свему и виђати кад год пожеле .

[Trifke]

пре 3 минута, Vladan :::. рече

Али опет се врти око тога да Барт сазива неки Сабор:

"Константинопољски патријарх једини може да сазове Васељенски сабор, али ако настави са оваквим деловањем, изгубиће и ту част", сматра митрополит."

Неће Барт да сазове ништа ако није сигуран да ће бити по његовој вољи. То је ваљда очигледно. Само се губи време и продужава штета. Треба Сабор да сазове неко други а Барт ако дође дође а ако не онда ћао...

 

Pa tako ćei biti. Ovo trba shvatiti kao upozorenje. 

[srb_Lo]

Управо сада, Trifke рече

Pa tako ćei biti. Ovo trba shvatiti kao upozorenje. 

Само да ово не пређе у неку нормалу за коју годину 

[Vladan :::.]

Управо сада, Trifke рече

Pa tako ćei biti. Ovo trba shvatiti kao upozorenje. 

ОК, само да не прође 50 година и више у припремама за Сабор као прошли пут...

 

[Trifke]

Управо сада, srb_Lo рече

Само да ово не пређе у неку нормалу за коју годину 

 

[The Godfather]

http://orthochristian.com/122796.html

[The Godfather]

http://orthochristian.com/122768.html

[Vladan :::.]

пре 12 минута, The Godfather рече

http://orthochristian.com/122796.html

Раде Филарету исто што су и Онуфрију. Игра мечка...

 

[Vladan :::.]

пре 9 минута, The Godfather рече

http://orthochristian.com/122768.html

GREEK BISHOP SERVED WITH UKRAINIAN SCHISMATICS “IN ACADEMIC CAPACITY,” NOT REPRESENTING GREEK CHURCH, DIOCESE CLARIFIES

Langadas, Greece, July 30, 2019

The Greek hierarch who concelebrated with the Ukrainian schismatics in Kiev on Sunday did so “in his academic capacity” as a professor of theology in Uzhgorod University in Western Ukraine and not as a representative of the Greek Orthodox Church, according to a press release from the Metropolis of Langadas published on Romfea yesterday.

While “Metropolitan” Epiphany Dumenko, the head of the schismatic “Orthodox Church of Ukraine” (OCU), took it upon himself to declare that Metropolitan Ioannis of Langadas’ participation in the Divine Liturgy for the feast of St. Vladimir means the Greek Church has de-facto recognized the OCU, the Langadas press release refutes this declaration.

“He was not present as a representative of the Greek Church, which, as is known, has not come to an agreement on the issue of recognition [of the OCU—O.C.],” the statement reads.

Moreover, as OrthoChristian reported yesterday, Langadas is among the “New Lands” dioceses in northern Greece that are administered day-to-day as part of the Greek Church, but are officially subordinated to the Patriarchate of Constantinople, which is the sole Local Church to recognize the OCU.

The Patriarchate of Constantinople and the schismatic OCU are eagerly anticipating the recognition of the latter by the Greek Church. Both “Met.” Epiphany and Patriarch Bartholomew have publicly declared many times that the Greek Church will be the first to enter into communion with the schismatics, though the hierarchs of the Greek Church have yet to seriously address the issue.

Epiphany made a surprise trip to Istanbul in June to celebrate Pat. Bartholomew’s name’s day and to meet His Beatitude Archbishop Ieronymos, the primate of the Greek Church. Abp. Ieronymos was not expecting Met. Epiphany and though the two attended the same Vespers service, they did not serve together.

On May 26, Archimandrite Epiphanius (Dimitriou), formerly a cleric of the Demetrias and Almyros Diocese of the Greek Orthodox Church, was consecrated as a “bishop” for the schismatic OCU. He was reportedly released by his hierarch His Eminence Metropolitan Ingatius of Demetrias and Almyros of the Greek Orthodox Church, though the Metropolis did not respond to OrthoChristian’s inquiries about this information.

Though it was previously expected that the Greek Bishops’ Council would consider the Ukrainian issue at its upcoming October session, it is not on the agenda.

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7/30/2019

 

[Trifke]

пре 1 минут, Vladan :::. рече

Раде Филарету исто што су и Онуфрију. Игра мечка...

 

Ma neka ga samo Bog poživi. Mada se meni čini da se tu nezna ko pije a ko plaća. 

[Trifke]

пре 1 минут, Vladan :::. рече

GREEK BISHOP SERVED WITH UKRAINIAN SCHISMATICS “IN ACADEMIC CAPACITY,” NOT REPRESENTING GREEK CHURCH, DIOCESE CLARIFIES

Langadas, Greece, July 30, 2019

The Greek hierarch who concelebrated with the Ukrainian schismatics in Kiev on Sunday did so “in his academic capacity” as a professor of theology in Uzhgorod University in Western Ukraine and not as a representative of the Greek Orthodox Church, according to a press release from the Metropolis of Langadas published on Romfea yesterday.

While “Metropolitan” Epiphany Dumenko, the head of the schismatic “Orthodox Church of Ukraine” (OCU), took it upon himself to declare that Metropolitan Ioannis of Langadas’ participation in the Divine Liturgy for the feast of St. Vladimir means the Greek Church has de-facto recognized the OCU, the Langadas press release refutes this declaration.

“He was not present as a representative of the Greek Church, which, as is known, has not come to an agreement on the issue of recognition [of the OCU—O.C.],” the statement reads.

Moreover, as OrthoChristian reported yesterday, Langadas is among the “New Lands” dioceses in northern Greece that are administered day-to-day as part of the Greek Church, but are officially subordinated to the Patriarchate of Constantinople, which is the sole Local Church to recognize the OCU.

The Patriarchate of Constantinople and the schismatic OCU are eagerly anticipating the recognition of the latter by the Greek Church. Both “Met.” Epiphany and Patriarch Bartholomew have publicly declared many times that the Greek Church will be the first to enter into communion with the schismatics, though the hierarchs of the Greek Church have yet to seriously address the issue.

Epiphany made a surprise trip to Istanbul in June to celebrate Pat. Bartholomew’s name’s day and to meet His Beatitude Archbishop Ieronymos, the primate of the Greek Church. Abp. Ieronymos was not expecting Met. Epiphany and though the two attended the same Vespers service, they did not serve together.

On May 26, Archimandrite Epiphanius (Dimitriou), formerly a cleric of the Demetrias and Almyros Diocese of the Greek Orthodox Church, was consecrated as a “bishop” for the schismatic OCU. He was reportedly released by his hierarch His Eminence Metropolitan Ingatius of Demetrias and Almyros of the Greek Orthodox Church, though the Metropolis did not respond to OrthoChristian’s inquiries about this information.

Though it was previously expected that the Greek Bishops’ Council would consider the Ukrainian issue at its upcoming October session, it is not on the agenda.

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7/30/2019

 

Što bih voleo da nam ovo objasni naš Severo- makedonac!  

[MKD13]

пре 4 часа, Trifke рече

Što bih voleo da nam ovo objasni naš Severo- makedonac!  

Shta ima da se do-objashnava...Normalno da ce on na sebe da preuzme odgovornost, dok zvanicno GPC nije priznala PCU. Al samo ovo opravdanje, za onaj shto ume ta cita tekstove(kako ava kaze), govori da ovaj jerarh priznaje PCU, i ne plasi se nikakvih sankcija, siguran je da takve nece i ne moze biti od strane GPC. Jos i kod sebe u Grckoj je sasluzivao sa Germanom iz PCU...

Vartolomej vam je najavio i proces je poceo...GPC ce da prizna PCU. Komisije obe koje je Sinod blagoslovio, imaju stav da GPC treba da prizna PCU. Onaj grk episkop shto je rukopolozen za grke na Ukraini, dobi otpus i blagoslov od svog nadleznog episkopa...Jeronim je primio dar od Epifanija... Cekajte jesen ))))

Ima u Grckoj nekoliko episkopa kao Serafim Pirejski, Amvrosije i jos po neko koji cesto imaju svoje stavove razlicitee od vecinskog episkopata grcke crkve....neka vecita opozicija)))