Однос хришћанства према хомосексуалности

[Родољуб Лазић]

Ово је врло занимљиво. Џозеф Скиамбра у интервјуу каже да хомо нису такви рођени и да постоје три главна узрока.

Joseph: You are definitely not born that gay, that’s one thing I do know.  I would say there are three things that lead people to gay, that get people into gay, and they have changed over the years just because society and the family have changed.  Number one, it is a traumatic event in childhood, abuse, primarily sexual abuse by somebody of the same sex.  Number two, you will have a faulty relationship with the father, or an abusive relationship with the father, or a missing father, or combined with that there is a failure for the boy to bond with male peers.  The third one is an early exposure to pornography.  Initially, I would say that, and I’ve seen it change because I went into gay in the 80’s so at that time, although a lot of those guys that came out were the first guys to come out, post-Stonewall in the 70’s, they were still alive but they were dying off.  They kind of had what I would say the classic gay-boy syndrome which is a distant unloving father and an overprotective mother.  You know, to a degree we all…I’d say that has sort of changed where my generation that came out in the 80’s you had a lot of boys who came from broken homes but you still had, this is getting kind of complicated, but you still had variations on that classic gay-boy syndrome where there was something wrong with the father.  You know, I’ve never met, I’ve never met a gay guy who had a really good relationship with his dad, never.  A lot of time they will tell you, because they know that some people who come from my point of view are gonna say that, they’ll say “oh no, you’re wrong” but when you talk to them a little further and they start describing their childhood, I mean right away the bells and whistles are going off.

 

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пре 2 минута, Родољуб Лазић рече

You know, I’ve never met, I’ve never met a gay guy who had a really good relationship with his dad, never.  A lot of time they will tell you, because they know that some people who come from my point of view are gonna say that, they’ll say “oh no, you’re wrong” but when you talk to them a little further and they start describing their childhood, I mean right away the bells and whistles are going off.

 

[Родољуб Лазић]

 

А ево једне од исповести са сајта римокатоличке организације Courage која помаже хомо особама.

Ради се о особи за коју би хомо лоби рекао да је "рођена лезбејка", јер се увек осећала као дечак. И описала је свој животни пут, како је постепено, кроз борбу, дошла до избављења од привлачности ка истом полу - same sex attraction (SSA). Дајем само кључне делове, а цело сведочење је овде:

https://couragerc.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Kims_Testimony.pdf

"I'd always wanted to be a boy. Always. One of my earliest memories from childhood is my desire to be a boy. I wasn’t comfortable being a girl or playing with the things girls played with. I’d rather jump my bike over ramps, climb trees, go digging for worms, play football, and all those other cool things boys did. For most of my childhood, I only hung out with boys; I considered them much better to be around than girls. I dressed, acted and took on all the mannerisms of a boy.

..............

I can’t even pinpoint the day I noticed this, but here it is: I have not had any SSA desires since that time! The physical aspect of SSA I’ve always, always desired in my head since I was a child was gone! I am claiming a miracle and healing from God! And I wasn’t even looking for it. I just wanted to cope with my SSA, to follow Church teaching and to be happy with myself. And once I really gave myself over to God, He said, “Okay, let’s take this away so you can focus on the rest of your life.”

....................

I used to want to be a boy. I thank Him for the Courage—in the ministry and in my life—to live with, and to move beyond, SSA."

[Родољуб Лазић]

И још нешто, врло интересантно - у мају ове године у Вашингтону је одржан "Марш слободе" у којем су учествовали бивши хомосексуалци:

https://www.orthodoxytoday.org/blog/2019/05/former-homosexuals-choose-christ-and-holiness-over-sin-freedom-march-2019/

 

[Родољуб Лазић]

А ово је животна прича човека који је покренуо "Марш слободе", Џефрија Меккола, који је и сам био хомосексуалац и, између осталог, једно време се понашао и живео као жена са именом Скарлет:

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2019/january/jeffrey-mccall-from-transgender-to-transformed

Ево дела те приче:

"While living as Scarlett, McCall had a secret. Behind closed doors, he was listening to Jentezen Franklin, the pastor of Free Chapel.  It was a church McCall had visited twice while in college. 

"He would come on television, or, I would look him up on YouTube. I would listen to him and the Holy Spirit was using it to convict me of sin," McCall said. 

"And it was around the last semester of graduate school, I was sitting in my room and I was just crying. It was really, really late at night. And I was just weeping. I spoke to God, through my crying and weeping, and I said, "God, I know people live for you, not just go to church on Sunday, not just play a religious game, like something happened and their life was transformed. And I said, 'Will I ever live for you?' My voice went silent. My thoughts stopped. And I heard God say, 'Yes, you will live for me,' he recalled. 

A few months later, McCall made a difficult decision.

"I'm going to throw away the hair, the makeup, the clothes, the shoes, and everything that I have as Scarlett. So, in June of 2016, I threw it all away. I went to a dumpster and I just threw my whole life away. And it wasn't a joke to me. It wasn't something I took lightly. I was planning to transition and have surgeries and change my body. So throwing that away was a huge step," he said." 

 

[Desiderius Erasmus]

Пре сат времена, Родољуб Лазић рече

И још нешто, врло интересантно - у мају ове године у Вашингтону је одржан "Марш слободе" у којем су учествовали бивши хомосексуалци:

https://www.orthodoxytoday.org/blog/2019/05/former-homosexuals-choose-christ-and-holiness-over-sin-freedom-march-2019/

 

To je super, pod uslovom da se radi o "čistim" homoseksualcima, a ne biseksualcima.

[Срђан К.]

пре 47 минута, Родољуб Лазић рече

А ово је животна прича човека који је покренуо "Марш слободе", Џефрија Меккола, који је и сам био хомосексуалац и, између осталог, једно време се понашао и живео као жена са именом Скарлет:

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2019/january/jeffrey-mccall-from-transgender-to-transformed

Ево дела те приче:

"While living as Scarlett, McCall had a secret. Behind closed doors, he was listening to Jentezen Franklin, the pastor of Free Chapel.  It was a church McCall had visited twice while in college. 

"He would come on television, or, I would look him up on YouTube. I would listen to him and the Holy Spirit was using it to convict me of sin," McCall said. 

"And it was around the last semester of graduate school, I was sitting in my room and I was just crying. It was really, really late at night. And I was just weeping. I spoke to God, through my crying and weeping, and I said, "God, I know people live for you, not just go to church on Sunday, not just play a religious game, like something happened and their life was transformed. And I said, 'Will I ever live for you?' My voice went silent. My thoughts stopped. And I heard God say, 'Yes, you will live for me,' he recalled. 

A few months later, McCall made a difficult decision.

"I'm going to throw away the hair, the makeup, the clothes, the shoes, and everything that I have as Scarlett. So, in June of 2016, I threw it all away. I went to a dumpster and I just threw my whole life away. And it wasn't a joke to me. It wasn't something I took lightly. I was planning to transition and have surgeries and change my body. So throwing that away was a huge step," he said." 

 

Sto neko rece, ja mislim da.to sad postaje pomodarstvo. To je sad cool.

Prekjuce mi prica prijatelj iz Wiena, iz Austrije,da Srpkinja, 14 godina, iz Wiena, na nekom svom profili napisala 'orjentacija'- 'bisex(!?). Eh, sa 14 godina ona zna da je bisex?! Gospodi, pomiluj... Svojim roditeljima je rekla da je glupo i staromodno da devojke imaju momke...

Evo, takodje, jednog beckog noviteta:

[Срђан К.]

Slika nema veze sa temom, ali njome povezujemo shvatanja tzv.'moderne Evrope'.

[Branka62]

пре 10 минута, Срђан К. рече

Eh, sa 14 godina ona zna da je bisex?!

A može li se sa 14 godina znati da si heteroseksualan/heteroseksualna)?

[Bokisd]

пре 14 минута, Branka62 рече

A može li se sa 14 godina znati da si heteroseksualan/heteroseksualna)?

pa, zar je sama njena - njegova priroda ne upucuje na to, sama njihova polnost...

[Milan Nikolic]

Шта ли се на овој теми расправља сваки дан, може ли неко да ми поједностави?

[Срђан К.]

пре 17 минута, Branka62 рече

A može li se sa 14 godina znati da si heteroseksualan/heteroseksualna)?

Mogu.

[Branka62]

пре 1 минут, Bokisd рече

pa, zar je sama njena - njegova priroda ne upucuje na to, sama njihova polnost...

Priroda  čega?

[Bokisd]

Управо сада, Milan Nikolic рече

Шта ли се на овој теми расправља сваки дан, може ли неко да ми поједностави?

moze Milance,.... ili je hetero po prirodi,.... ili je homo po prirodi,.... ne mere' i jedno i drugo,... mislim da se zakljucak sam moze izvesti ... 

[Срђан К.]

пре 2 минута, Milan Nikolic рече

Шта ли се на овој теми расправља сваки дан, може ли неко да ми поједностави?

To vise niko ne zna... Ispravljamo rep magarcu, ali slaba vajda...