Da li većina ide u Pakao ili ne ?

[Zayron]

On 4.8.2019. at 10:42, grigorije22 рече

Postoji neka vizija prepodobnog Grigorija koja kaze da ce jako malo zena da se spase zbog narusavanja bracne postelje. 

No,  ako je to tako bolje onda da se prestanu baviti olimpijskim sportovima po tudjim krevetima i sa tudjim ženama ili muževima i sve ostalo raditi zbog čega se ide u pakao a  zamjene to s nečim manje štetnim kao što je sjedenje po kafanama na primjer. Samo zbog pića tj. pijenja alkohola, sjedenja po kafanama , slušanja turbofolka i gledanja pevaljki niko ne može otićii u pakao niti je kad završio bilo ko tamo jer ni ne postoji Božija zapovijest koja to osudjuje ili zabranjuje. Pogledajte i provjerite to i sami.

https://www.vira.cz/texty/clanky/desatero-prikazani-bozich

https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desatero

Jedino u slučaju da se pomlate i pobodu noževima u kafani, onda su skrivili  pred Bogom ne zato što su pili i slušali muziku već zato što su se pomlatili i izboli. Zato ako već morate griješiti barem onda u tome radi čega se ne ide direkt u pakao. 

 

https://tinyurl.com/y3tp3ofm

https://tinyurl.com/y6k7excu

https://youtu.be/D1m6h0fwiBs

https://youtu.be/OsehOZsu8Q0

https://youtu.be/PvIi4mMFs5s

Ovako ne! https://youtu.be/JGP-SQSxhY8

Bez pipkanja, opipavanja, štipkanja i drpanja pevaljki je to ok, inače sve preko toga je grijeh. Samo slušati i gledati, ničega se tamo ne doticati,  ništa ne dirkati, ne pipkati i ne opipavati ni štipkati! Ili joj platit i za sex ili drpanje po stolovima (ili pod stolovima) a ne za samo za muziku, to je takodjer grijeh. A ne znači to da joj za sve ono ostalo osim muzike ne morate ili ne trebate platiiti već i ne smijete jer je to grijeh, zabranjuje to Bog i Biblija. I kad bi vam sve to neka nudila za džaba i na lijepe oči (nekakva dobročiniteljka, sexualna socijalna radnica, iz humanitarnih razloga) a vi bili oženjeni - ni tada to nejde ni ne može. Samo tako pod tim uslovima se može i nije grijeh sjediti u kafani kad je sve samo pjesma i vino. Što reče jedan katolički sveštenik:

Vino, žene i pjesma - u tri riječi sažeto rečeno: "Sveta Misa / Liturgija"!  

Ovako ne! https://youtu.be/JGP-SQSxhY8

Evo ovi momci sjede mirno na stolici satima i pijuckaju šljivovicu, nikog ne diraju, slušaju muziku i ocjenjuju kako je šljiva urodila i bila ispečena. I kakav sad to može biti grijeh?

https://tinyurl.com/ybwo3pr5

Evo zbog čega se ide u pakao, opili se pa se pomlatili i pobodali noževima, izboli, masakr tamo bio. Tačno kao što se to pjeva u ovoj pjesmi:

https://tinyurl.com/yamthk58

Valašsko, z V. Karlovic 
zvŕtaný

V tej kunčické hospodě (kafane) je tam krveprolití,
[: ej, nedalas mně má milá nedalas mně (mi) tam jíti (ići). :]

(nisi dala meni  moja mila, nisi mi dala tamo ići)

A když si mně nedala, dobře jsi udělala, ej, byli by mňa zabili (ubili), byla by si plakala.

(A kad mi nisi dala, dobro si uradila, ej bili bi me ubili, bila bi plakala)

Tamo na Moravu (Valašsko na Moravě) morate otići ne samo zbog te kafane već i zbog krasne crkve drvenjare.

https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunčice_pod_Ondřejníkem

https://tinyurl.com/yx9mxp3u

A ovi što tuku žene i djecu u opilosti, rade to i kad su trijezni. Ono što si dozvoliš trijezan, pijan radiš isto samo gore i više. Onaj ko si ne dozvoljava tući ženu i djecu i kad je trijezan, nikad to neće uraditi pijan. Sve ostalo su samo jalove izlike, izgovori i isprike, navodno nije se kontrolisao pa pomahnito i pomlatio ili pobio sve po kafani, po kući i po komšiluku pa još i navalio i na policiju kad je došla. Nije se jadan mogao kontrolisati! Pričam ti priču .....bajke za malu djecu ....

Evo zbog čega je alkohol opasan, glavno medju mladim momcima. Zbog žena i suparnika u ljubavi, kad su pijani onda se zbog ženske tj. cure, djevojke, galanke odvaže na svašta a od tog potom nije daleko ni do noža i sjekire.

Ovdje se baš o tom pjeva:

https://youtu.be/HVg_bRDK1e8

Ili kad je ona ok a on neozbiljan, nezreo, blentav, nevjeran i svakakav. Ophodi se loše prema njoj i ne ponaša se nikako. Nije je vrijedan niti zna cijeniti šta ima a vara je s daleko manje vrijednim curama od nje tj. od te koju već ima:

https://youtu.be/9VQMM20y8ps

Kad pijete primjereno, nema razloga da se bojite pakla. Primjereno znači dvije stvari.

1, Vratite se kući onako kako ste došli na svojim nogama hodajući a ne da vas iz kafane voze u hitnoj doktori sa infuzijom na detox jer ste si enormno velikom količinom popijenog alkohola prouzrokovali trovanje alkoholom ili vas odveze maricom policija sa lisicama na rukama.

2. Nastavite da se poslije povratka iz kafane ponašate onako isto kako ste se ponašali prije toga - neagresivno i normalno kao čovjek a ne ko bestija.

3. Ako niste u stanju da ispunite tačku 1. i 2. onda pivo zamjenite alkoholfrei - bezalkoholnom pivom a vino, rakiju i ostale destilate ni ne gledajte, predjite na mineralnu vodu i sokove. Nije problem u alkoholu već u vama.

https://youtu.be/ebpkpIayBak

https://youtu.be/1XadFkl9Ix8

https://youtu.be/TjgTUt3Zero

https://youtu.be/7tQr0JI05V8

https://youtu.be/RpjxZrzBUg4

[grigorije22]

пре 16 часа, Богомислић рече

За кога има спасења, за њега има ко да се моли. Неспасени су имали такав живот да се за њих баш нико не моли.

Ovde pise drugacije. Pise da Bog ne prihvata molitvu bliznjih a ne da nema ko da se moli.

http://pravoslavie.by/page_book/kto-kak-i-komu-iz-umershih-mozhet-prinesti-polzu?fbclid=IwAR20dsjQB3PFIL2AZV4huN5CIYKZZ9ID1nc_w8-fgx4cwSyL-bFXQyWz8wU

[Bokisd]

пре 16 часа, kopitar рече

Ovo je ozbiljna tema.

Dobro, malo kroz salu i opustenciju da pricamo o stvarno ozbiljnoj temi,.... (bar ja ne znam drugacije, sta da radim takav sam ... )

[Aleksandra_A]

 

[Vasilije.]

пре 10 часа, grigorije22 рече

Ovde pise drugacije. Pise da Bog ne prihvata molitvu bliznjih a ne da nema ko da se moli.

http://pravoslavie.by/page_book/kto-kak-i-komu-iz-umershih-mozhet-prinesti-polzu?fbclid=IwAR20dsjQB3PFIL2AZV4huN5CIYKZZ9ID1nc_w8-fgx4cwSyL-bFXQyWz8wU

Онда ни том ближњем спасеном не може дати пуноћу блаженства.

[Зосима]

Ја имам проблем,што више волим Ејси,него Цепелине...

[grigorije22]

Da li vecno nuzno znaci beskrajno i beskonacno?

 

[Богољуб 1]

"Ако је неко добар, не играј му по глави, и ако је неко строг, не љути га." Патријарх српски Павле

[Tumaralo.]

Rani hrišćani kao da nisu imali izgrađenu doktrinu o paklu, i verovanja....

Isus takođe ništa nije spec govorio o paklu..

Čudno, imajući u vidu značaj pitanja.

 

[Дејан]

 

[Bernard]

[31] And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. [32] And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: [33] And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. [34] Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. [35] For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in:

[36] Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. [37] Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? [38] And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? [39] Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? [40] And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.

[41] Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. [42] For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. [43] I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me. [44] Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? [45] Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.

[46] And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting.

Gospel According to St Matthew - Chapter 25, 31-46

http://www.drbo.org/chapter/47025.htm

 

[Tumaralo.]

пре 52 минута, Bernard рече

[31] And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. [32] And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: [33] And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. [34] Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. [35] For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in:

[36] Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. [37] Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? [38] And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? [39] Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? [40] And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.

[41] Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. [42] For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. [43] I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me. [44] Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? [45] Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.

[46] And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting.

Gospel According to St Matthew - Chapter 25, 31-46

http://www.drbo.org/chapter/47025.htm

 

Uf da, zaboravih ovo..

Izgleda da je Bog ipak psiho

[Драшко]

пре 11 минута, Tumaralo. рече

Uf da, zaboravih ovo..

Izgleda da je Bog ipak psiho

zasto?

zato sto za casu vode ides u raj?

[Поет]

Ne idem u pakao nikakoooooooooooo 

[Поет]

Iako je grijeeeh biti ovako leep i gluuuuuuuuuup