Vreme falsifikata i lazi

[Драшко]

пре 3 минута, Flavius Belisarius рече

Sami dan D je laz na neki nacin, odnosno njegovo oznacavanje kao "pocetak kraja". Rat je odlucen godinu i po ranije, na istoku. Zapravo Kajtel na sudjenju rece da je Moskva '41 vec bila kraj, da je znao da ne mogu nista posle toga.

To ne umanjuje zrtvu mladih Rajana ni na koji nacin i ovo sto rade predstavlja pljuvanje na njih...

Staljingrad je verovartno tacka preloma, isto ogromna cena placena sa obe strane. Nemci platili svoje bezumlje a Rusi slobodu!

[obi-wan]

пре 27 минута, Драшко рече

Trump u brit. engleskom označava"prdež"

Skoro sam saznao

To mora de jeki zargonski izraz, piraterija, cim ga nema u recniku takvog... 

[obi-wan]

пре 24 минута, Flavius Belisarius рече

Sami dan D je laz na neki nacin, odnosno njegovo oznacavanje kao "pocetak kraja". Rat je odlucen godinu i po ranije, na istoku. Zapravo Kajtel na sudjenju rece da je Moskva '41 vec bila kraj, da je znao da ne mogu nista posle toga.

To ne umanjuje zrtvu mladih Rajana ni na koji nacin i ovo sto rade predstavlja pljuvanje na njih...

Taman tako, a ima ih koji tvrde da je taj front otvoren samo da Rusi ne bi pregazili prakticno celu Evropu.

[feeble]

Evo i lokalnih falsifikatora i lazova koji bez imalo blama napisu nesto ovako

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[Милан Ракић]

On 8.6.2019. at 23:16, obi-wan рече

Kad je bila proslava oko Prvog rata, a neki nasi zapenili na mrezama na to sto su predstavnici (avaj!) Srbije bili u drugom redu, a predstavnici krimosa sa KiM u prvom, ja sam i onda tima rekao da je bas najbolje da mi i nismo tamo, da treba da bojkotujemo taj nenormalni skup, i da nemamo sta da trazimo medju takvima koji nemaju ni trun osnovnog istorijskog obraza, kamoli nesto drugo.

Исто/слично, бејаше и ономадне, када је Владимир Владимирович на неку округлу обљетницу Дана победе (2005. мсм.) позвао представника Републике Хрватске, који беше тада др Стјепан Месић (свакако, слава палим антифашистима хрватскога рода), но у том контексту, врло "сартровски" беше "недостатак" делегације Републике Србије крај кремаљских зидина, односно тада СиЦГ.

[Милан Ракић]

On 9.6.2019. at 13:37, obi-wan рече

a ima ih koji tvrde da je taj front otvoren samo da Rusi ne bi pregazili prakticno celu Evropu.

такви су јели дроге неке. срамно и бедно и јадно

[Flavius Belisarius]

пре 5 часа, Милан Ракић рече

Исто/слично, бејаше и ономадне, када је Владимир Владимирович на неку округлу обљетницу Дана победе (2005. мсм.) позвао представника Републике Хрватске, који беше тада др Стјепан Месић (свакако, слава палим антифашистима хрватскога рода), но у том контексту, врло "сартровски" беше "недостатак" делегације Републике Србије крај кремаљских зидина, односно тада СиЦГ.

Koliko sam upucen, uz ogradu, to je bio odgovor na oduzimanje ulica Tolbuhinu i Zdanovu u Bg...

[Драшко]

пре 12 минута, Flavius Belisarius рече

Koliko sam upucen, uz ogradu, to je bio odgovor na oduzimanje ulica Tolbuhinu i Zdanovu u Bg...

Svejedno nije u redu, pogotovu u kontekstu uvodnog posta i svega što smo se složili tokom teme

 

[obi-wan]

пре 7 часа, Милан Ракић рече

Исто/слично, бејаше и ономадне, када је Владимир Владимирович на неку округлу обљетницу Дана победе (2005. мсм.) позвао представника Републике Хрватске, који беше тада др Стјепан Месић (свакако, слава палим антифашистима хрватскога рода), но у том контексту, врло "сартровски" беше "недостатак" делегације Републике Србије крај кремаљских зидина, односно тада СиЦГ.

Potpuno se slazem.

[Flavius Belisarius]

пре 1 сат, Драшко рече

Svejedno nije u redu, pogotovu u kontekstu uvodnog posta i svega što smo se složili tokom teme

 

Nisam ni htio da opravdavam, ali valja imati na umu da smo "prvi poceli"

Ponavljam, ako se dobro sjecam, ovo je neko moje zapazanje...

[Avocado]

пре 2 часа, Flavius Belisarius рече

Koliko sam upucen, uz ogradu, to je bio odgovor na oduzimanje ulica Tolbuhinu i Zdanovu u Bg...

A u Zagrebu postoje ulice Tolbuhina i Ždanova, te je Mesić svakako zaslužio poziv...

[Flavius Belisarius]

пре 2 часа, Avocado рече

A u Zagrebu postoje ulice Tolbuhina i Ždanova, te je Mesić svakako zaslužio poziv...

ne znas ti, kako je imati pa nemati

[Драшко]

Vjerujem da će se ovo svidjet  @obi-wan

O glumcu David Niven-u i njegovim ratmin danima , izmjedju ostalog i u Normandiji

 

The day after Britain declared war on Germany in 1939, Niven returned home and rejoined the British Army. He was alone among British stars in Hollywood in doing so; the British Embassy advised most actors to stay.^[17]

Niven was recommissioned as a lieutenant into the Rifle Brigade (Prince Consort's Own) on 25 February 1940,^[18] and was assigned to a motor training battalion. He wanted something more exciting, however, and transferred into the Commandos. He was assigned to a training base at Inverailort House in the Western Highlands. Niven later claimed credit for bringing future Major General Sir Robert E. Laycock to the Commandos. Niven commanded "A" Squadron GHQ Liaison Regiment, better known as "Phantom". He worked with the Army Film Uni

He acted in two films made during the war, The First of the Few (1942), directed by Leslie Howard, and The Way Ahead (1944), directed by Carol Reed. Both were made with a view to winning support for the British war effort, especially in the United States. Niven's Film Unit work included a small part in the deception operation that used minor actor M.E. Clifton James to impersonate General Sir Bernard Montgomery. During his work with the Film Unit, Peter Ustinov, though one of the script-writers, had to pose as Niven's batman. (Ustinov also played a large supporting role as a Frenchman in The Way Ahead.) Niven explained in his autobiography that there was no military way that he, as a lieutenant-colonel, and Ustinov, who was only a private, could associate, other than as an officer and his subordinate, hence their strange "act". Ustinov later appeared with Niven in Death on the Nile (1978

Niven took part in the Allied invasion of Normandy in June 1944, although he was sent to France several days after D-Day. He served in "Phantom," a secret reconnaissance and signals unit which located and reported enemy positions,^[19] and kept rear commanders informed on changing battle lines. Niven was posted at one time to Chilham in Kent. He remained close-mouthed about the war, despite public interest in celebrities in combat and a reputation for storytelling. He once said:

I will, however, tell you just one thing about the war, my first story and my last. I was asked by some American friends to search out the grave of their son near Bastogne.
I found it where they told me I would, but it was among 27,000 others, and I told myself that here, Niven, were 27,000 reasons why you should keep your mouth shut after the war.

Niven had particular scorn for those newspaper columnists covering the war who typed out self-glorifying and excessively florid prose about their meagre wartime experiences. Niven stated, "Anyone who says a bullet sings past, hums past, flies, pings, or whines past, has never heard one—they go crack!" He gave a few details of his war experience in his autobiography, The Moon's a Balloon: his private conversations with Winston Churchill, the bombing of London, and what it was like entering Germany with the occupation forces. Niven first met Churchill at a dinner party in February 1940. Churchill singled him out from the crowd and stated, "Young man, you did a fine thing to give up your film career to fight for your country. Mark you, had you not done so − it would have been despicable."^[12]

A few stories have surfaced. About to lead his men into action, Niven eased their nervousness by telling them, "Look, you chaps only have to do this once. But I'll have to do it all over again in Hollywood with Errol Flynn!" Asked by suspicious American sentries during the Battle of the Bulge who had won the World Series in 1943, he answered, "Haven't the foggiest idea, but I did co-star with Ginger Rogers in Bachelor Mother!" ^[20]

Niven ended the war as a lieutenant-colonel. On his return to Hollywood after the war, he received the Legion of Merit, an American military decoration.^[21] Presented by Eisenhower himself, it honoured Niven's work in setting up the BBC Allied Expeditionary Forces Programme, a radio news and entertainment station for the Allied forces. In that capacity, Niven worked closely with the British Broadcasting Corporation(BBC) and sometimes with Major Glenn Miller and Miller's Army Air Force Band.^[22][23]

 

^{source: Wikipedia}