Тема о КОРОНАВИРУСУ... све на једном месту

[Bernard]

Korona virus naj bi v Wuhan prinesli ameriški vojaki: Poročilo japonske televizije zažiga internet!

Novi koronavirus Covid-19 bi lahko izviral iz ZDA, je včeraj poročala japonska televizija Asahi. Te novice sploh sploh ne bi smeli upoštevati, če je ne bi objavila ena največjih medijskih hiš na Japonskem.

Poročilo japonske televizije sumi, da se je morda nekaj od 14.000 Američanov, ki so v zadnjem desetletju umrli za gripo, na neznan način okužilo s koronavirusom, kar je ponovno spodbudilo strahove in ugibanja, da se je morda novi virus Covid-19 najprej pojavil v ZDA.

Japonska televizijska postaja namiguje, da vlada ZDA morda ni razumela ali se celo ni zavedala širjenja okužbe v državi.

Po mnenju več uporabnikov kitajskega družbenega omrežja Veibo se je virus na Kitajskem pojavil skupaj z ameriškimi udeleženci na Svetovnih vojaških igrah, ki so bile oktobra v Wuhanu.

“Morda je prišlo do mutacije virusa, ki je postal smrtonosen, okužba pa je povzročila široko epidemijo,” poroča japonska televizijska postaja Asahi.

14. februarja so Centri za nadzor in preprečevanje bolezni v Združenih državah Amerike sporočili, da bodo začeli opazovati ljudi, obolelih za gripo, da bi ugotovili, ali se je nov koronavirus pojavil v laboratorijih za javno zdravje v Los Angelesu, San Franciscu, Seattlu, Chicagu in New Yorku.

http://topnews.si/2020/02/25/korona-virus-naj-bi-v-wuhan-prinesli-ameriski-vojaki-porocilo-japonske-televizije-zaziga-internet/

[Tanja M]

Zbog koronavirusa oglasili se iz Kriznog štaba Grada Tuzle

WWW.BH-INDEX.INFO

---

Krizni štab Grada Tuzle je na današnjoj sjednici, razmatrao naredbe, odluke, informacije Federalnog kriznog štaba i Kriznog...

 

[Таша]

[Дуња]

пре 27 минута, Таша рече

 

Nemoj tako. Pa pogledaj, Infektivna klinika je i danas na visini zadatka.

Da mogu smejala bih se. 

 

[Tanja M]

Upozorenje još 31.1.2020. u vezi Italije i Brazila...

[АлександраВ]

пре 1 сат, Дуња рече

Nemoj tako. Pa pogledaj, Infektivna klinika je i danas na visini zadatka.

Da mogu smejala bih se. 

 

Ја стварно не разумем више ово безвезно постављање фотографија које су сликане пре неколико година и које не одговарају стварности. То ми стварно иде на живце. Дајте, проверите изворе. Чему ово?

 

https://www.facebook.com/KlinikaZaInfektivneiTropskeBolestiKCS/?tn-str=k*F

http://www.rts.rs/page/stories/sr/story/125/drustvo/3792153/pocinje-renoviranje-infektivne-klinike-posle-skoro-citavog-veka.html?fbclid=IwAR3t9wG4Dd4-YQNXve35Xq9dzXsyqgFgyUj0lduUuHokQWq02cYLSIzIfjk

Итд.... Не кажем да пуца од лепоте сада, али реновира се, и не делите више те слике које немају везе са истином.

Друго, на висини задатка су ти лекари и сестре тамо, а не фасада.

[Tanja M]

"So far Brazil does not have a confirmed case of coronavirus infection. But the annual carnival season began on Friday in Rio de Janeiro and other cities across the country. "

Brazil to quarantine visitors with virus symptoms | NHK WORLD-JAPAN News

WWW3.NHK.OR.JP

---

The government of Brazil has decided to quarantine overseas visitors upon their arrival if they show symptoms that may...

 

[АлександраВ]

So you think you’re about to be in a pandemic?

The severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2 [1]) has spread to over 30 countries and regions outside mainland China. Currently, disease spread in Singapore is being slowed by their expertise but new case numbers in South Korea, Italy and Iran, and the wide national distribution of cases in Japan are all signs that the virus is ahead of our efforts to contain it.

We’re not in a pandemic now

For now, you are more than likely not living in an area experiencing widespread community transmission of SARS-CoV-2. If more cases of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) keep rapidly appearing, and more of them can’t be traced to existing transmission chains, the efforts in some countries to contain COVID-19 will have failed.

At some point, we’ll be in the main phase of a pandemic; epidemics of an efficiently transmitting pathogen spreading widely within the community of two or more countries, apart from the first one to report it.[1] A pandemic doesn’t necessarily mean the disease is severe. Also, this word may bring to the attention an event that some still manage to ignore when softer words are used. And let’s face it if we don’t start using this possibly scary word and talking about and planning for the possibilities now – how much more panic and fear will result because we were taken totally by surprise?

For once, let’s get ahead of what’s coming.

Assumptions and severity

This post is based on the assumption that a pandemic will occur at some point and that Wave 1 will impact us, wherever we live, in the coming weeks and months.

We don’t know for certain how severe a COVID-19 pandemic will be. We may be able to assume it’s a mild or perhaps moderate pandemic, not a severe one, according to definitions in the Australian Health Management Plan for Pandemic Influenza scenarios.[4] But we won’t know for sure until we see spread in countries that ask questions, define cases, and test for SARS-CoV-2 in the same way that we do.

From AHMPPI.[4]

We know that SARS-CoV-2 is effectively transmitted among humans but it may take longer for symptoms to show up in the next infected person than it does for seasonal influenza (“silent” or unnoticed shedding may happen). We also know there are no antivirals or vaccines at the time of writing and we are pretty sure that our entire population is likely to be vulnerable to infection because it doesn’t have any immunity to their new virus.

Planning now and doing something means we can control how well we cope with some of what may be coming.

If we see events cancelled or schools closed we can rest assured that this is to slow down spread, not something scarier. Hopefully, this will be clearly explained by authorities at the time.

While closures and cancellations are possible, they are by no means a sure thing. We don’t know how mild or severe SARS-CoV-2 will be, and each region will make their own – probably slightly differing – decisions about what is appropriate – and enforceable. Having a think now about how we might respond in these situations will help decisions come faster if we get to that point.

Thanks to the expert commentary of Dr Jody Lanard and Dr Peter Sandman, in the last post, we already have some excellent ideas about what information we should be listening for, from health authorities communicating to the wider community.

What we might see happen if many get sick

If we enter into a pandemic, large numbers of people will be sick. Even if that’s just staying home with a fever and bad cough for a week. If COVID-19 is more severe, that will have a greater impact.

And when one family member is sick, one or more others may be involved in their care, removing more people from the workplace. The same effect may result if children being excluded from school. In a worst-case scenario, widespread illness may mean too few workers to drive trucks and trains, buses and taxis, run water treatment, electricity or other government services, teach at schools or staff hospitals. This didn’t happen in Australia during the 2009 H1N1 “swine flu” pandemic. But supply chains may be impacted in a number of ways.

Authorities will try to slow the speed of COVID-19 to prevent hospitals – which are essential to care for the sickest people – from being overloaded. Public gatherings – sports events and concerts – as well as schools and childcare centres, could be postponed or closed. All of which aims will be to keep people apart, making it harder for the virus to spread quickly.  Again, these decisions will differ between places, and may not even have to be made.

Measures which slow the peak (1) and “flatten the curve” (2) will delay and spread out the pressure on essential healthcare function and supply chains. [3]

Once we have a vaccine, we can mitigate the impact of SARS-CoV-2, but we’re quite some way from having a safe vaccine.

Planning for everything

A lot of the planning that is going on in many places worldwide right now revolves around supporting essential services, using the numbers we have to predict the load on hospitals and to model a myriad of impacts on daily life; planning for the worst and hoping for the best.

Everyone knows the precise numbers of cases and deaths are not as precise as we’d like them to be. This is where modelling gives the authorities options – from most likely to happen, to least likely. From least concerning outcomes to the most devastating ones. And we plan accordingly. In this process, a lot of guidelines and plans and documents get written, but few of them are of use to you (or us) as members of the wider community.

It seems to take a while to get to around talking to the community about what they can do. Part of that’s because of how consumed with work many are right now because this epidemic is still only 8 weeks old; an infant, yet one that moves like a teenager who just discovered caffeine. And yet, late last week and over the weekend, the signal fires of pandemic awareness and increased communication started to light.

But what can we plan for and do?

Let’s break this into two main categories.

1. Reducing our risk of being infected
2. Reducing the chance we will run out of essential foods and goods

Reducing our risk of being infected

We can do a few things and we’ve probably heard them all before. They won’t guarantee to protect us from infection, but they can reduce our risk of infection. These are just as useful for avoiding influenza (flu) virus infection during flu season and for dodging SARS-CoV-2, once your local community is known to have it circulating.

REMEMBER: As long as the virus circulates, and as long as you have never been infected, you are susceptible to infection resulting in COVID-19. This will be the case for the rest of your life until you have been infected which should protect you from severe disease. COVID-19 is mostly a mild illness but can cause severe pneumonia in approximately 20% of cases, leading to hospitalization for weeks and in a portion of these cases, to death.

World Health Organization.[3]

These are things we can do to reduce our risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection.

• Stay at least 2m away from obviously sick people.
  We’re trying to avoid receiving a cough/sneeze in the face, shaking hands, or being in the range of droplet splatter and the “drop zone”
• Wash your hands for 20 seconds & more frequently than you do now
  Soap and water and then dry, or an alcohol-based hand rub, and air dry
• Try not to touch your face.
  There is a chance your unwashed fingers will have a virus on them and if you touch/rub your mouth, nose or eyes, you may introduce the virus and accidentally infect yourself. Practice this; get others to call you out when you forget. Make it a game.

While a mask seems like a good idea, and when used by professionals it does protect from infection, it can actually give inexperienced users a false sense of security. There isn’t a lot of good evidence (still!) that shows a mask to reliably prevent infection when worn by the public at large. They are useful to put on a sick person to reduce their spreading of the virus.

If you or a loved one becomes sick, follow the practices of the day. Call ahead before going to a Doctor, fever clinic or hospital and get advice on what to do. Hopefully, this message is already out there and we’ll see it more once transmission of the virus is widespread.

Reducing our risk of running short of food and important goods – the 2-week list

What we’re looking at here is trying to minimize the impact of any shortages of goods we rely on having at the grocery store or at the end of an online ordering system.

Dried fruit. It lasts and is nutritious.
Photo by VisionPic .net from Pexels

But don’t panic buy and don’t hoard!

Most of the world is not seeing any widespread ongoing transmission of SARS-CoV-2, so now is a great time to make list, label up a “Pandemic Stash” box, and begin to slowly fill it with items that won’t go off and that you won’t touch unless needed. Buy a few of the things each weekly shop. Don’t buy things you won’t eat later, don’t hoard and don’t buy more than you’ll need for a 2 week period. We’re not talking zombie apocalypse and we very probably won’t see power or water interruptions either.

Our household is trying to get food that fulfil a need for carbohydrate, protein, and fibre. We also want supplies for caring for the sick (or for when sick yourself) and cleaning supplies to try to reduce the spread.

Below we list things we’ll need to have in case of a more major interruption to supply; a stock that will last 2 weeks. Some of these things will last much longer and include items that may not be a top priority for authorities to keep stocked:

• Extra prescription medications, asthma relief inhalers
  Some of these may be a problem, so talk to your doctor soon.
• Over-the-counter anti-fever and pain medications
  paracetamol and ibuprofen can go a long way to making us feel less sick
• Feminine hygiene products
• Family pack of toilet paper
• Vitamins
  In case food shortages limit the variety in your diet
• Alcohol-containing hand rub
• Soap
• Household cleaning agents
  Bleach, floor cleaner, toilet cleaner, surface cleaning spray, laundry detergent
• Tissues, paper towel
• Cereals, grains, beans, lentils, , pasta
• Tinned food – fish, vegetables, fruit
• Oil, spices and flavours
• Dried fruit and nuts
• Ultra-heat treated or powdered milk
  Ian is not drinking black coffee, no matter what
• Soft drink or candy/chocolate for treats
• Think about elderly relative’s needs
  Their medications, pets, pandemic stash, plans for care (see later)
• Pet food and care
  Dry and tinned food, litter tray liners, medicines, anti-flea drops

The last-minute fresh list

In a more severe pandemic, supply chain issues may mean fresh food becomes harder to get. So this list is an add-on to the one above, and its items should be the last things to buy if you have a hint of when supplies might slow or stop for a (hopefully short) time.

• Bread, wraps
• Meat for freezing
• Milk
• Eggs
• Yogurt
• Vegetables, fruit
• Fuel for your car

The elderly and COVID-19

To date, looking at data from China (below), most (94%) deaths from COVID-19 have occurred in those aged over 50 years of age, with more than half (51%) in those aged over 70 years. The age group most at risk for death are those aged over 80 years.

Older people with comorbidities have experienced higher proportions of death than those with no comorbidities. Most cases identified in mainland China – 80.9% of them – even with the more severe case catching that China has favoured – have been classified as mild. This is good news although 20% is still a lot of “severe” disease. Mild cases recover in about 2 weeks from the time they showed symptoms, while severe cases can take 3 to 6 weeks to recover.

Infographic of the largest study of cases from China.[1]

Because of this, we may see a big impact on our elderly population, both in terms of hospitalisation and death. Residential aged care is likely to suffer and visits to loved ones may be restricted to keep them safe. If you have loved ones in an aged care facility, ask the facility about its plans for keeping their residents safe from flu (a similar situation) and whether they have thought about what they will do if SARS-CoV-2 is spreading widely.

It will be important to check that your parents and grandparents have prepared a Will and have considered an Enduring Power of Attorney in case they are unable to make care-based decisions for themselves. These aren’t fun to organise or think about, but they’re important whether we see a COVID-19 pandemic or not, so just use this as a reminder to get it done.

Pandemic is a word, how we react to it is down to us

We all want to have some control over our lives but when a virus comes knocking as this one is, we feel the loss of that control. The lists above are something we can actually do.

We’re working on this in our household now, bit by bit. The lists have helped us all focus on how that “thing going on in that faraway country” will impact us when it comes to our neighborhood. This process has already made things a little more familiar and a little less unknown and scary. We’ve done some things that will help. We know there are still risks but we’ve talked about them, calmly, as a family.

Of course, this doesn’t remove the many unknowns, but we’re sure we’ll gradually reduce those as science gets us more answers. Hopefully, these answers will bring good news; lower death rates, effective antiviral drugs, and new vaccines.

We do have some experience of a pandemic and it wasn’t panic-worthy. The pandemic of H1N1 “swine flu” in 2009 had some unhappy consequences, but it was by no means a zombie apocalypse.

China has bought us time to prepare. Let’s not waste any more of it. Instead, let’s get our planning hats on and all work the problem together. This is one of those rare times when we’re unarguably all in this together.

SARS-CoV-2 doesn’t care about our beliefs, our sex or gender, our colour or our clothes – it just wants to make a home in our human cells.

It’s perfectly okay to be anxious about this.

But work the problem.

https://virologydownunder.com/so-you-think-youve-about-to-be-in-a-pandemic/

[АлександраВ]

пре 32 минута, Tanja M рече

"So far Brazil does not have a confirmed case of coronavirus infection. But the annual carnival season began on Friday in Rio de Janeiro and other cities across the country. "

Brazil to quarantine visitors with virus symptoms | NHK WORLD-JAPAN News

WWW3.NHK.OR.JP

---

The government of Brazil has decided to quarantine overseas visitors upon their arrival if they show symptoms that may...

 

Latin America has recorded what would be its first confirmed case of coronavirus on Tuesday as Brazilian authorities reported that a 61-year-old man in São Paulo had tested positive for the illness.

According to the O Globo newspaper the man recently arrived back in Brazil’s economic capital from Italy.

He was being treated at one of Brazil’s top hospitals, the Albert Einstein in São Paulo, on Tuesday.

The results of a second test to confirm the virus are expected on Wednesday, Brazil’s health ministry said.

[sanja84]

Dobih "grip" - drugi za dva meseca. 

[Дуња]

пре 6 часа, АлександраВ рече

Друго, на висини задатка су ти лекари и сестре тамо, а не фасада.

Drago mi je što čujem da je neko imao prijatna iskustva sa hospitalizovanjem ili bilo kojim vidom lečenja na Infektivnoj. 

Iskustva brojnih ljudi koje sam upoznala, a i moja, kada je Infektivna u pitanju, od ponašanja i volje nazovi lekara, pa sve do higijenskih uslova u kojima smo bili zbrinuti, bila su više nego mučna. Stručnost i preduzimljivost da ne spominjem. Možda ambulantno, hospitalizovano - pakao!

Lepo je da se stvari menjaju na bolje. 

Drugo, zameraš na kačenju fotografija od pre godinu dana, a sa renoviranjem su krenuli (ako su i krenuli) 15. januara 2020? (Podatak iz članka koji si postavila)

[Дуња]

пре 6 часа, АлександраВ рече

Ја стварно не разумем више ово безвезно постављање фотографија које су сликане пре неколико година и које не одговарају стварности. То ми стварно иде на живце. Дајте, проверите изворе. Чему ово?

 

https://www.facebook.com/KlinikaZaInfektivneiTropskeBolestiKCS/?tn-str=k*F

http://www.rts.rs/page/stories/sr/story/125/drustvo/3792153/pocinje-renoviranje-infektivne-klinike-posle-skoro-citavog-veka.html?fbclid=IwAR3t9wG4Dd4-YQNXve35Xq9dzXsyqgFgyUj0lduUuHokQWq02cYLSIzIfjk

Итд.... Не кажем да пуца од лепоте сада, али реновира се, и не делите више те слике које немају везе са истином.

Pre dva meseca: 

Kreće prva faza gradnje nove infektivne klinike | MediaPortal.rs

MEDIAPORTAL.RS

...a dok se ne izgradi i ne renenovira biva neizgrađeno i nerenovirano. 

[АлександраВ]

пре 4 часа, Дуња рече

Drago mi je što čujem da je neko imao prijatna iskustva sa hospitalizovanjem ili bilo kojim vidom lečenja na Infektivnoj. 

Нисам ништа рекла о искуству, рекла сам о "висина задатка" у контексту фотографије где је приказана фасада зграде, и не браним никога, сасвим је јасно да је Клиника у очајном стању али ако је нешто кренуло да се ради, није ми јасно због чега сви медији и твитераши и људи са лошим искуством и даље врте слику из 2017. године са текстом - овако изгледа Клиника....? И то још са оваквим пратећим коментарима

пре 12 часа, Дуња рече

Pa pogledaj, Infektivna klinika je i danas na visini zadatka.

Сви смо ми у овом интернет свету помало новинари, и нормално би било да проверите изворе и да се мало замислите пре него што поставите/поделите неки инфо или фотографију. Цео мој пост је био усмерен у том правцу, не у правцу анализе Клинике за инфективне болести.

пре 4 часа, Дуња рече

Drugo, zameraš na kačenju fotografija od pre godinu dana, a sa renoviranjem su krenuli (ako su i krenuli) 15. januara 2020? (Podatak iz članka koji si postavila)

Veliki deo tih prostorija je u prethodnom veremenskom periodu renoviran i sređen, sredstvima Kliničkog Centra Srbije, ali i donacijama. Ono što do sada nije sređeno biće urađeno u toku sanacije koja je počela

Зар је тешко апдејтовати информације у реалном времену и бити објективан?

[Дуња]

пре 32 минута, АлександраВ рече

Сви смо ми у овом интернет свету помало новинари, и нормално би било да проверите изворе и да се мало замислите пре него што поставите/поделите неки инфо или фотографију. Цео мој пост је био усмерен у том правцу, не у правцу анализе Клинике за инфективне 

Tekst koji sam postavila i jeste novinarski od pre dva meseca. 

A objektivno je pacijentu u ovoj priči sasvim nebitno da li je zgrada zapuštena i datira od pre 100, 50, 20 godina, da li je fotografija iz novembra ili januara, da li se udara temeljac ili radi rasveta, ko tu ulaže, a ko krade i ostalo.   Rezultat je da nisu postojali, a ni trenutno ne postoje uslovi za stručni tretman onih zbog kojih ta klinika i treba da postoji. Ostaje samo parola - snađi se.

[Поет]

Dobro lepojke, kapiramo mi ostali o cemu se radi. Mirne.