Вести о упокојењу...

[gavrosaurus]

Шта год да је био, и ко год да је био, он је макар покушао да стоји уз свој народ и да му буде вођа.

Покушао је да буде лидер а не ду*елизац и цинкарош који се на сваки трзај господара престрави и шаље своје људе по белосветским трибуналима.

Макар толико.

[horatio]

Drug Cavez se pridruzio drugu Ceu u permanentnoj revoluciji.

 

Crno,ali inteligentno...

 

Neka mu je pokoj duši. 

[drvce]

Шта год да је био, и ко год да је био, он је макар покушао да стоји уз свој народ и да му буде вођа.

Покушао је да буде лидер а не ду*елизац и цинкарош који се на сваки трзај господара престрави и шаље своје људе по белосветским трибуналима.

Макар толико.

 

Je l ovde treba da pise duselizac ili dupelizac ili dunjelizac ili dugelizac? Verovatno dupelizac, jer ko jos cenzurise dugu, dunju ili dusu? Dupe ipak nije rec za forum. Nekako je prostacki. Ja bih napisao dupe, da ne ispadne da se prestravljujem nesto od admina. Moram da pokazem da sam dostojan cvrstorukog vodje, da sam spreman da budem topovsko meso. Sta ce takvom lideru neki zastraseni guster koji ne sme ni da kaze sta misli.

Ju, sad ce da nam pobrisu komentare po nalogu svojih belosvetskih mentora, ipak je dupe previse puta nepotrebno pomenuto. U stvari, samo sam ja napisao dupe, i to nekoliko puta, ne bi bilo u redu da diraju i tvoj komentar zbog mog pominjanja dupeta.

[Juan Valdez]

Rest in peace, Hugo Rafael Chávez Frías. As a Venezuelan, I didn't agree with most of your policies and politics, but I do not rejoice in your death and I do respect the pain of your family and supporters.

 

In 1998, when you campaigned for the presidency -and promised to end corruption- despite my disappointment with the traditional parties, I did not support you because you had led a coup against president Carlos Andres Pérez. I didn't like Pérez, but he was elected by our people and attempting to overthrow him was proof that you did not respect the will of Venezuelans.

 

I didn't oppose 100% of what you did. I was grateful, for example, that you placed the issue of poverty on the table and you put the spotlight on millions of Venezuelans that until then had been excluded. I knew that the Cuban doctors in the slums were unprepared and unequipped, but I understood that they meant the world to the mother that knocks on their door at 3am. I was also happy of the way most Venezuelans started to care about politics again (some because they supported you; others because they opposed you). The anti-politic feeling we saw in the 90's was precisely what got you elected. And I also kept in mind that a majority of Venezuelans did support you, so you certainly had a right to be in office.

 

These are my 10 reasons why I will not miss you:

 

1. Your authoritarian manner (which reflected a flaw probably most Venezuelans have), and your inability to engage in an honest dialogue with anyone that opposed you. Even from your death bed, you had a Supreme Court justice fired because she didn't agree with your politics.

 

2. Your disrespect for the rule of law and your contribution to a climate of impunity in Venezuela. In 1999, you re-wrote the Constitution to fit your needs, and yet you violated it almost on a daily basis. With this example, it is no surprise that crime exploded in Venezuela. In 14 years, our homicide rate more than tripled from 22/100K to 74/100K. While judges were busy trying to prove their political allegiance to you, only 11% of homicides led to a conviction.

 

3. Your empty promises and the way you manipulated many Venezuelans to think you were really working for them. In 14 years you built less public housing than any president before you did in their 5 year periods. Hospitals today have no resources, and if you go there in emergency you must everything from medicines to surgical gloves and masks. The truth is that you were better at blowing your own trumpet than at getting things done.

 

4. The astounding level of corruption of your government. There was corruption before you got elected, but normally a government's scandals weren't made public until they handed power to the opposing party. Now we've heard about millions and millions of dollars vanishing in front of everybody's eyes, and your only reaction was to attack the media that revealed the corruption. The only politicians accused of corruption have been from parties that oppose you, and mostly on trumped up charges. For example, Leopoldo Lopez was never condemned by the courts but you still prevented him for running for office. His crime? Using money from the wrong budget allocation to pay for the salaries of teachers and firemen -because your government withheld the appropriate funds.

 

5. The opportunities you missed. When you took office, the price of oil was $9.30, and in 2008 it reached $126.33. There was so much good you could have done with that money! And yet you decided to throw it away on corruption and buying elections and weapons. If you had used these resources well, 10.7% of Venezuelans would not be in extreme poverty.

 

6. Your attacks on private property and entrepreneurship. You nationalized hundreds of private companies, and pushed hundreds more towards bankruptcy. Not because you were a communist or a socialist, but simply because you wanted no one left with any power to oppose you. If everyone was a public employee, you could force them to attend your political rallies, and the opposition would not get any funding.

 

7. Your hypocrisy on freedom and human rights. You shut down more than 30 radio and television stations for being critical of your government, you denied access to foreign currency for newspapers to buy printing paper (regular citizens can't access foreign currency unless you authorize it), you imprisoned people without trial for years, you imprisoned people for crimes of opinion, you fired tens of thousands of public employees for signing a petition for a recall referendum and you denied them access to public services and even ID cards and passports.

 

8. Your hypocrisy on the issue of Venezuela's sovereignty. You kicked out the Americans but then you pulled down your pants for the Cubans, Russians, Chinese and Iranians. We have Cuban officers giving orders in the Venezuelan army. Chinese oil companies work with a higher margin of profit than any Western companies did. And you made it clear that your alliances would be with governments that massacre their own people.

 

9. Your hypocrisy on the issue of violence. You said this was a peaceful revolution but you allowed illegal armed groups like Tupamaros, La Piedrita and FBLN to operate. You gave them weapons. You had the Russians set up a Kalashnikov plant in Venezuela. You were critical of American wars but yet you gave weapons to the Colombian guerrilla, whose only agenda is murder and drug-dealing.

 

10. Your hypocrisy on democracy. Your favorite insult for the opposition parties in Venezuela was "coupists", but you forgot you organized a coup in 1992, and the military that was loyal to you suggested they would support a coup in your favor if the opposition ever won the presidential elections. There was no democracy in your political party: you chose each of the candidates for the National Assembly and for city and state governments. When the opposition won the referendum that would have allowed you to change the Constitution in 2007, you disavowed the results and you figured out a way to change the articles and allow yourself to be reelected as many times as you wanted. You manipulated the elections in 2010 to make sure the opposition didn't get more than a third of seats in Parliament even though they got 51% of the popular vote. Your democracy was made of paper, you made sure there were no meaningful checks and balances and all institutions were your puppets.

 

So no, Hugo I will not miss you. Rest in peace now, while we try to rebuild the mess of a country that you left us.

 

[Odahviing]

Ono skroz mi je bio gotivan iz raznih razloga ali pogotovu zbog politike prema SAD-u.

Ali kad got čujem za njega ili vidim sliku setim se Orvelove "Životinjske farme"

[R.Žiskar]

[Ромејац]

Analyst estimates Chávez’s family fortune at around $2 billion

 

Criminal Justice International Associates (CJIA), a risk assessment and global analysis firm in Miami, estimated in a recent report that the Chávez Frías family in Venezuela has “amassed a fortune” similar to that of the Castro brothers in Cuba.

According to Jerry Brewer, president of CJIA, “the personal fortune of the Castro brothers has been estimated at a combined value of around $2 billion.”

“The Chávez Frías family in Venezuela has amassed a fortune of a similar scale since the arrival of Chávez to the presidency in 1999,” said Brewer in an analysis published in their website.

Brewer said that Cuba is receiving about $5 billion per year from the Venezuelan treasury and in oil shipments and other resources.

“We believe that organized bolivarian criminal groups within the Chávez administration have subtracted around $100 billion out of the nearly $1 trillion in oil income made by PDVSA since 1999.”

 

Извор

[R.Žiskar]

Criminal Justice International Associates (CJIA), a risk assessment and global analysis firm in Miami

 

[Gerhard]

Pravi vodja. Izabran od strane naroda. A tom narodu se i oduzio,koliko je mogao. Borac protiv bezboznog imperijalizma. Pokoj mu dusi.

[nedeljko]

ПатриЈотски блок му је већ одао славу. Преминуо друг Чавез, велики вођа који се супротставио америчком империјалзму.

 

 

Коментар дана: Одлазак великог антиглобалисте!

 

 

  Отишао је Уго Чавез и милиони људи широм света, који не верују лажима Новог светског поретка, жалиће што је отишао један од савремених симбола отпора.

Београд, 06.03.2013

После двогодишње борбе са раком, за који се сумња да је део плана о ликвидацији, Уго Чавез је преминуо, оставивши иза себе уплакан народ Венецуеле и тугу међу антиглобалистима свих народа света. Током свог четрнаестогодишњег мандата подизао је школе, болнице, путеве, описменио становништво, помагао сиромашне и, што је најважније, вратио мир и осећај националног достојанства у ову сиромашну и нестабилну земљу, која је била колевка антиколонијалистичке револуције у 19. веку. 

"Ел команданте", како су га његови земљаци називали, широм света је био популаран код свих оних који не желе да себе замисле у свету којим влада Нови светски поредакпохлепних банкара, агресивних америчких војсковођа и лицемерних бриселских бирократа. 

За њим ће жалити и државе Латинске Америке, јер је уз своје колеге, попут Ева Моралеса и Рафаела Корее, урадио доста да се утицај САД, често смртоносан и фаталан, (довољно је сетити се злочина проамеричких војних хунти у Аргентини, Чилеу, Перуу) ограничи, а у одређеним сегментима потпуно и укине на овом континенту.

Изражавамо своје саучешће народу Венецуеле и свим антиглобалистима широм света, којима су храбри потези Уга Чавеза уливали наду да отпор Новом светском поретку има светлу будућност.

Редакција сајта Двери

 

http://www.dverisrpske.com/sr-CS/dveri-na-delu/2013/mart/komentar-dana-odlazak-velikog-antiglobaliste.php

[R.Žiskar]

Nego da budemo samosvojni ljudi i kao takvi da zajedno donosimo odluke i da zajedno stojimo iza tih odluka.

Знам човека, он је некако мршав али дебео, повисок али ниске грађе и има дугу косу мада је ћелав....

On nije odgovoran tebi nego svom narodu. Ako sebi uzmeš advokata, onda tvoj advokat treba valjda da brani tvoje interese, ne interese tvog protivnika.

Интерес његовог народа је да бомбардује мој народ. А злочинци су одговорни жртвама а не својим саборцима.

Ако себи узмем адвоката, тражићу од њега да брани истину. А, да, за то ми не треба адвокат...

Него, арбајт ти лепо и уживај...."спасао" си се, самосвојни.... 

[R.Žiskar]

"Za 14 godina vladavine podelio je zemlju seljacima, nacionalizovao državne firme, čak i one sa stranim kapitalom, uveo socijalnu stanogradnju i sistem zdravstvene zaštite, dok je prehrambene programe finansirao prihodima od prodaje nafte. Prema podacima iz godišnjaka CIA, Venecuela je druga u svetu po zalihama nafte."

"Posle inauguracije 2. februara 1999. pokrenuo je inicijativu za promenu Ustava i novi ustav je donet krajem godine. Sledeće godine predlaže nove zakone o zemlji i energentima i smenjuje rukovodstvo kompanije Petroleos de Venecuela S.A – PDVSA. Počinju protesti protiv Čavesa, na ulice izlazi hiljade ljudi, 19 je nastradalo, a stotine ranjenih. Grupa generala mu je prenela ultimatum: ili da se preda i napusti palatu Miraflores ili će vojska napasti palatu. Odveli su ga u vojnu tvrđavu Tihuana van Karakasa, raspustili parlament, sudove, tužilaštvo i imenovali novog predsednika. Iako su "antičavisti" imali otvorenu podršku Vašingtona i CIA, vojska je stala na Čavesovu stranu, oslobodila ga i vratila u palatu."

ЛИНК

[Manolis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFMInh3KPEg

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAf8UqKWdCw

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1029172/

[R.Žiskar]

Najviše kritike na politiku Sjedinjenih Američkih Država dolaze iz samih Sjedinjenih Američkih Država, bez ove američke slobode vi ne bi ništa znali šta se dešava u svetu, znali bi jedino ono što bi vam govorili vaše nepogrešive vođe. Čak i ovaj internet je produkt američke vojske, a bez američke državne službe ICAAN (Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers) koja deli adrese po internetu, tako i za ovaj forum, i za svaki "srpski" forum gde pale protiv Amerike, ne bi imali ni gde da pišete protiv vama omrznutih Amerikanaca. Budite srećni da imate takvu Ameriku i ne da je Rusija, Kina ili Venecuela, jer onda bi zaista bili seljaci koji bi se zadovoljili time što bi dobili poneki kvadratni metar zemlje, jer za drugo ne bi znali u životu.

Моја грешка, извини.

Мислио сам да не можеш ниже да паднеш....

[GeniusAtWork]

Nikolić posthumno odlikovao Čavesa

 

Izvor: B92, Tanjug

Beograd -- Predsednik Srbije Tomislav Nikolić posthumno je danas odlikovao ordenom Republike Srbije na lenti venecuelanskog predsednika Uga Čavesa koji je preminuo sinoć.

 

 

Preminuli predsednik Bolivarske Republike Venecuele, orden je dobio za zasluge u razvijanju i učvršćivanju miroljubive saradnje i prijateljskih odnosa izmedju Republike Srbije i Bolivarske Republike Venecuele, stoji u saopštenju iz kabineta predsednika Srbije.

 

U saopštenju Kabineta predsednika Republike navodi se i da će Srbiju na sahrani predsednika Venecuele, Uga Čavesa, predstavljati Oliver Antić u svojstvu specijalnog izaslanika predsednika Srbije.

Inače, Tomislav Nikolić i Ivica Dačić uputili su saučešće porodici predsednika Venecuele Uga Čavesa, rukovodstvu i narodu Venecuele.

Podsetimo, venecuelanski predsednik Ugo Čaves (58) preminuo je u utorak posle dvogodišnje borbe sa kancerom. Iz celog sveta njegovoj porodici i narodu Venecuele stižu poruke saučešća.

"Bolivarska Republika Venecuela je ostala bez svog predsednika, Republika Srbija bez iskrenog prijatelja, svetska politička scena bez velikog državnika čija tolerancija, razumevanje istorijskog trenutka, istrajnost kojom se borio za bolju budućnost svog naroda, doprinos miru u regionu i svetu, postaju osobine po kojima će sa dubokim poštovanjem ime Uga Čavesa izgovarati u budućnosti", ističe se u telegramu predsednika Srbije.

Predsednik Vlade Srbije je povodom smrti predsednika Venecuele uputio telegram saučešća potpredsedniku te države Nikolasu Maduru.

"U ime Vlade Republike Srbije i u svoje lično ime izražavam duboko saučešće povodom smrti predsednika Venecuele Uga Čaveza, koji je bio veliki prijatelj Srbije, zagovornik unapredjivanja odnosa naše dve zemlje i poznat po principijelnom stavu o rešavanju problema Kosova i Metohije u skladu sa medjunarodnim pravom", navodi se u telegramu saučešća premijera Dačić.

 

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