Старост васионе: хронологија библијска или природно-научна

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Pogriješio sam kad sam rekao nauka. Mislio sam na jedno, al sam rekao drugo.

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Који људи и када "пре"?

Prije nego što su iznijeti prvi dokazi da je Zemlja okrugla, u Bibliji je to već zapisano

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Za Avocado

-Nisam baš dobar u engleskom, tako da ne mogu prihvatiti to Za odgovor

 

 

Uh, mrzi me... ajd ukratko...

 

1. Tu piše da je Zemlja okrugla - kao kružna ravna ploča. Zemlja nije okrugla, već sferična, i to nepravilna sfera ("oblate spheroid"). Grci su i pre tih stihova Biblije tvrdili da je Zemlja sferična.

 

2. Ne znam odakle ideja da je nauka nekad smatrala da postoji samo 1100 zvezda ali zvuči kao besmislica. U Jeremiji 33:22 se to koristi kao poređenje... sa potomcima Davida... koji nisu neizbrojivi i ima/bilo ih je daaaaleeekooo manje nego zvezda.

 

3. Nauka nikada nije smatrala da Zemlja leži na velikoj životinji. Job 26:7 je u suprotnosti sa Psalm 104:5. Takođe, tu ne piše da slobodno "lebdi u svemiru"... već da je obešena iznad ničega/praznine ("Он је разастро и сјевер над празнином, и земљу објесио ни о чем.") budući da su tadašnji Jevreji verovali da je oko Zemlje svod na kojem su "okačene" zvezda i da osim Zemlje sa svodom (uključujući nebesa i podzemlje) ne postoji ništa. Zemlja inače ne lebdi slobodno u svemiru, već je gravitacija Sunca drži i pomera po tačno određenoj orbiti.

 

4. Ne piše "stvorenje načinjeno iz nevidljivih elemenata". ("Вјером познајемо да је свијет ријечју Божјом свршен, да је све што видимо из ништа постало.") Ne pominju se elementi. Nejasno je i na šta se misli, a pre će biti da se misli na nastanak univerzuma ni iz čega. Inače, reč "atom" i ideja o atomima potiče iz stare Grčke, ne od naučnika, već od filosofa.

 

5. Ne znam odakle ideja da je nauka nekad smatrala da su sve zvezde iste. Golim okom se vidi da nisu i to su mnogi drevni narodi prepoznavali. Inače taj stih ne govori da su zvezde različite, već da im je različita slava (šta god to značilo)... takođe, taj stih poprilično ukazuje na to da autor stiha ne zna da je i sunce zvezda (kao što naravno nije znao)... prilično bezvezno je da imputiraš neka posebna napredna znanja o zvezdama piscu teksta koji nije znao da je sunce zvezda.

 

I tako dalje... zaista me mrzi... ko god je pisao taj spisak:

1. nema pojma o nauci i istoriji nauke, i gotovo ni jedna tvrdnja o "nauci nekad" nije tačna

2. uzima stihove koji su poetski ili razna poređenja i čak mora da ih pogrešno prevodi jer u njima ne piše to što on želi da predstavi.

 

Dakle, nije nauka "potvrdila neke Biblijske reči"... nego je nauka došla do svojih otkrića, bez apsolutno ikakvog uticaja Biblije na ta otkrića... i onda su ljudi koji veze nemaju sa naukom seli i prečešljali Bibliju da nađu 12 stihova koji bi mogli da se tumače kao da su u saglasnosti sa ovim otkrićima... uz naravno ignorisanje svih onih stihova koji su suprotni onome što danas znamo o Zemlji i univerzumu (ili čak delova istih tih stihova)... i onda kao neko ko je napisao "Он је разастро и сјевер над празнином" ili "Друга је слава сунцу, а друга слава мјесецу, и друга слава звијездама"... je imao posebna znanja o univerzumu, nedostupna tadašnjim ljudima... samo je bio najgori komunikator u istoriji, jer niko od njegovih sledbenika nije znao šta on želi da nam poruči sve dok nauka to nije otkrila.

 

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[ExNihilo]

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1. Tu piše da je Zemlja okrugla - kao kružna ravna ploča. Zemlja nije okrugla, već sferična, i to nepravilna sfera ("oblate spheroid"). Grci su i pre tih stihova Biblije tvrdili da je Zemlja sferična.

Nigdje ne stoji da je kao ta ploča

2. Ne znam odakle ideja da je nauka nekad smatrala da postoji samo 1100 zvezda ali zvuči kao besmislica. U Jeremiji 33:22 se to koristi kao poređenje... sa potomcima Davida... koji nisu neizbrojivi i ima/bilo ih je daaaaleeekooo manje nego zvezda.

U bukvalističkom smislu da, Biblija koristi poznati jezik tako je napisano da će Avram imati potomaka koliko zvijezda, poganih ljudi će biti kao pijska morskog. to je način izražavanja u hebrejskom

3. Nauka nikada nije smatrala da Zemlja leži na velikoj životinji. Job 26:7 je u suprotnosti sa Psalm 104:5. Takođe, tu ne piše da slobodno "lebdi u svemiru"... već da je obešena iznad ničega/praznine ("Он је разастро и сјевер над празнином, и земљу објесио ни о чем.") budući da su tadašnji Jevreji verovali da je oko Zemlje svod na kojem su "okačene" zvezda i da osim Zemlje sa svodom (uključujući nebesa i podzemlje) ne postoji ništa. Zemlja inače ne lebdi slobodno u svemiru, već je gravitacija Sunca drži i pomera po tačno određenoj orbiti.

Smatrala je u srednjem vijeku. U Bibliji nema suprotnosti. (Kasnije ću vidjeti stih u Psalmu) A ko je rekao da slobodno lebdi u svemiru? Čime dokazuje da su Jevreji vjerovali za svod zviejzda oko Zemlje. Pa i Zemlja nije ni na čemu.

4. Ne piše "stvorenje načinjeno iz nevidljivih elemenata". ("Вјером познајемо да је свијет ријечју Божјом свршен, да је све што видимо из ништа постало.") Ne pominju se elementi. Nejasno je i na šta se misli, a pre će biti da se misli na nastanak univerzuma ni iz čega. Inače, reč "atom" i ideja o atomima potiče iz stare Grčke, ne od naučnika, već od filosofa.

Piše da je stvroena iz ničega, da nije postojala materija. Samom svojom Riječju je Bog stvorio svijet

[Creationism]

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Isus Krist, onako kako je nama predstavljen u Novom zavjetu i kako je istican u svim njegovim zapisima, previše je jedinstven i prevelik kako bi bio izmišljotina, istovjetno predstavljen od svih pisaca.

Snaga Isusa Krista oslobodila je ove zapise, nisu zapisi oslobodili snagu. Isus je puno veći i neodoljiviji od svih Njegovih svjedoka. Njegova stvarnost stoji iza ovih zapisa, isto kao što i neki svjetski događaj stoji iza tisuću TV izvjestitelja. Nešto čudesno natjeralo je ove raznovrsne svjedoke da kažu sve ove raznolike i zapanjujuće, a ipak istovjetne, priče o Isusu Kristu.

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Isus Krist, onako kako je nama predstavljen u Novom zavjetu i kako je istican u svim njegovim zapisima, previše je jedinstven i prevelik kako bi bio izmišljotina, istovjetno predstavljen od svih pisaca.

Snaga Isusa Krista oslobodila je ove zapise, nisu zapisi oslobodili snagu. Isus je puno veći i neodoljiviji od svih Njegovih svjedoka. Njegova stvarnost stoji iza ovih zapisa, isto kao što i neki svjetski događaj stoji iza tisuću TV izvjestitelja. Nešto čudesno natjeralo je ove raznovrsne svjedoke da kažu sve ove raznolike i zapanjujuće, a ipak istovjetne, priče o Isusu Kristu.

Nitko nije uspio objasniti prazan grob Isusa Krista u neprijateljskom okruženju Jeruzalema gdje bi neprijatelji Isusa dali sve na svijetu kada bi mogli prikazati Isusovo tijelo, ali nisu mogli.

Najraniji pokušaji prikrivanja skandala o uskrsnuću su bili očigledno suprotni svakom ljudskom iskustvu – učenici ne bi ukrali tijelo (Matej 28,13) i onda žrtvovali svoje živote kako bi propovijedali veličanstveno Evanđelje milosti utemeljeno na prevari. Nisu uvjerljive ni moderne teorije kako Isus nije umro, nego je bio omamljen i onda se probudio u grobu, uklonio stijenu te prevario svoje skeptične učenike da povjeruju kako je On uskrsnuo kao Gospodar svemira.

Postojalo je mnoštvo ciničnih protivnika kršćanstva u vrijeme dok je bilo mnogo očevidaca koju su se mogli konzultirati u vezi s Isusovim uskrsnućem od mrtvih.

“A potom Ga vidješe jednom više od pet stotina braće, od kojih mnogi žive i sad, a neki i pomriješe” (1 Korinćanima 15,6). Takve izjave bi odmah proglasili lažnim, da su to mogli. Ali nemamo nikakvih informacija o tome. Bilo je puno očevidaca uskrslog Isusa kada su ove presudne izjave napravljene.

Rana crkva je bila nesavladiva sila vjere i ljubavi i žrtve utemeljena na stvarnost Isusa Krista.

Karakter ove crkve i narav Evanđelja milosti i oproštenja, i nepokolobljiva hrabrost muškaraca i žena – pa čak ako je to značilo i smrt – ne uklapa se u pretpostavku da je to djelo masovne histerije. Oni jednostavno nisu bili takvi. U svijetu se dogodilo nešto potpuno stvarno i veličanstveno i bili su dovoljno blizu da su to mogli znati, bili uvjereni u to, i zarobljeni Njegovom silom. To nešto bio je Isus Krist, kao što su svi oni to posvjedočili, pa kad su i umirali pjevajući.

Proročanstva Starog zavjeta nevjerojatno su ispunjena u životu Isusa Krista.

Svjedočanstava o ovim ispunjenjima ima previše, i previše su raznolika i suptilna i previše isprepletena u povijesti novozavjetne crkve i njenih zapisa, a da bi ista mogla bili lažna ili proizvod neke velike UROTE. Isus Krist je ostvario mnoštvo proročanstava u najsitnijim detaljima što potvrđuje Njegovu istinitost.

Svjedoci o Isusu Kristu, koji su napisali novozavjetna evanđelja i poslanice, nisu bili lakovjerni prevaranti ili poremećeni.

Ovo je vidljivo iz samih zapisa, jer knjige imaju elemente inteligencije, zdravog razuma i zrelosti, a samim tim i privlačnu moralnu viziju. One nas pridobijaju svojim svjedočanstvom naročito kada se sve sagleda kao jedna velika, kompletna, ali različito izrečena poruka o Isusu Kristu.

Svjetonazor koji proizlazi iz zapisa Novog zavjeta daje puno više smisla postojećoj stvarnosti, nego bilo koji drugi svjetonazor.

Ne samo da odgovara ljudskom srcu, nego i svemiru i povijesti i Bogu, kako nam se On otkriva u prirodi i svijesti. Neki mogu doći do ovog zaključka nakon puno razmišljanja, a drugi mogu doći do ovog uvjerenja bez prethodnog razmišljanja, intuitivno duboko u sebi osjećajući kako se Krist i Njegova poruka u potpunosti uklapaju u svijet kojeg oni znaju.

Kada neko vidi Krista onako kako je On stvarno prikazan u Evanđelju, tada počinje sjati duhovno svjetlo koje je samopotvrđujuće, Ovo je “svjetlost poznanja slave Božje” (2 Korinćanima 4,6), i On je odmah primijećen u srcu koje je Duhom probuđeno , isto kao što i svjetlo biva primijećeno otvorenom oku. Oko ne raspravlja o tomepostoji li svjetlo, ono vidi svjetlo.

Kada vidimo i vjerujemo u slavu Boga u Evanđelju, dat nam je Duh Sveti kako bi ljubav Božja mogla biti “izlivena u naša srca” (Rimljanima 5,5).

Ovaj doživljaj Božje ljubavi poznat srcu kroz Evanđelje Onoga koji je umro za nas dok smo još bili pogani, uvjerava nas da nas nada koja se probudila u nama zbog ovih dokaza neće razočarati.

Preuzeto sa:http://www.novizivot.net/2015/10/21/9-dokaza-o-istinitosti-evandelja-koje-nitko-ne-moze-pobiti/

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iblija predviđa budućnost koja će biti puna nevolja. Uči da je put do raja uzak, a put do pakla širok. Više je nego jasno da Pismo nije pisano za one koji žele jednostavne životne odgovore ili lagane, optimistične poglede na religiju i ljudsku prirodu. Biblija je najvoljenija i najomraženija knjiga na svetu. Zašto je to tako?

Biblija je iskrena

Biblija je bolno iskrena. Na primer, pokazuje Jakova, oca "izabranog naroda" kao varalicu. Mojsija, davaoca zakona, opisuje kao nesigurnog, opirućeg vođu, koji je u svom prvom pokušaju da pomogne svom narodu ubio čoveka, a onda pobegao kroz pustinju spašavajući goli život.

Prikazuje Davida ne samo kao Izraelovog najvoljenijeg kralja, generala i duhovnog vođu, već i kao nekog ko je uzeo ženu drugom muškarcu i onda, kako bi sakrio svoj vlastiti greh, skovao zaveru da joj se muž da ubiti.

U jednom trenutku, Pismo optužuje Božje ljude, narod Izraelski, da su tako zli da u usporedbi s njima Sodoma i Gomora izgledaju dobrima (Jezekilj 16-46-52). Biblija predstavlja ljudsku prirodu neprijateljskom prema Bogu.

Biblija je očuvana

Taman u vreme kada je moderna izraelska država izranjala iz hiljada godina duge raspršenosti, jedan je beduinski pastir otkrio jedan od najvažnijih arheoloških blaga našeg vremena. U pećini, na severozapadnom delu Mrtvoga mora, u razbijenoj posudi nađeni su dokumenti koji su bili skriveni dve hiljade godina. Dodatnim su nalazima otkriveni rukopisi koji datiraju 1.000 godina pre od najstarije poznatih primeraka. Jedan od najvažnijih primeraka je Knjiga proroka Isaije. Ta knjiga otkriva dokument koji je u biti isti kao Knjiga proroka Isaije koju danas imamo u našim Biblijama. Spisi Mrtvoga mora izronili su iz prašine kao simboličko pružanje ruku narodu koji se vraća kući. Oni su diskreditovali tvrdnje onih koji su verovali da je originalna Biblija izgubljena kroz vreme i neovlaštenim promenama.

Biblija govori o sebi

Važno je znati šta Biblija kaže za sebe. Da autori Pisma nisu tvrdili da govore za Boga, bilo bi arogantno da mi to tvrdimo za njih. Takođe, imali bi smo drugu vrstu problema. Imali bismo celu zbirku nerešenih misterija, utelovljenih u istorijskoj i etičkoj literaturi. No, ne bismo imali knjigu koja je inspirirala gradnju bezbrojnih crkava i sinagoga širom sveta. Biblija koja nije tvrdila da govori u ime Boga ne bi postala neprikosnoveni temelj stotinama miliona hrišćana i Jevreja (2. Petrova 1:16-21). No, uz mnogo podržavajućih dokaza i argumenata, autori Biblije su uistinu tvrdili da je Biblija uistinu nadahnuta od Boga. Zato šta su mnogi založili svoju sadašnju i večnu dobrobit na tim tvrdnjama, Biblija ne može biti dobra knjiga ako su njezini autori uporno lagali o svom izvoru informacija.

Čuda Biblije

Izraelov beg iz Egipta postavio je istorijske temelje za verovanje da se Bog objavio Izraelu. Ako se Crveno more nije razdvojilo, kao šta je to rekao Mojsije, onda Stari zavet gubi svoj autoritet da govori u ime Boga. Novi zavet je podjednako ovisan o čudima. Apostol Pavle priznaje da je, ako Isus telesno nije ustao iz mrtvih, hrišćanska vera stvorena na lažima (1. Korinćanima 15:14-17). Kako bi pokazao svoju verodostojnost, Novi zavet imenuje svoje svedoke, a to je urađeno u vremenskom periodu koje je omogućilo da se ove tvrdnje provere (1. Korinćanima 15:1-8). Mnogi od svedoka završili su kao mučenici, ne iz apstraktnih moralnih ili duhovnih ubeđenja već zbog njihovih tvrdnji da je Isus ustao od mrtvih. Dok mučeništvo nije neuobičajeno, razlozi zbog kojih su ovi ljudi položili svoje živote su ono šta je važno. Mnogi su umrli za ono za šta su verovali da je istina. No, sigurno je da ljudi ne umiru za nešto za šta znaju da je laž.

Jedinstvenost Biblije

Četrdeset različitih autora koji su pisali u vremenskom periodu od 1.600 godina napisali su 66 knjiga Biblije. Četiri stotine tihih godina razdvojilo je 39 knjiga Starog zaveta od 27 knjiga Novog zaveta. Uprkos tome, od Prve Mojsijeve knjige pa sve do Otkrivenja, sve knjige otkrivaju jednu priču. Zajedno daju konzistentne odgovore na najvažnija pitanja koja čovek može pitati: Zašto smo ovde? Kako da pobedimo naše strahove? Kako da se slažemo jedni s drugima? Kako da se izdignemo iznad naših okolnosti i zadržimo nadu živom? Kako da sklopimo mir sa svojim Stvoriteljem? Biblijski konzistentni odgovori na ova pitanja pokazuju da je Pismo u stvari jedna knjiga, a ne mnogo njih.

Tačnost Biblije

Kroz vekove su mnogi sumnjali u istorijsku i geografsku tačnost Biblije. Međutim, moderni su arheolozi u mnogo navrata pronašli dokaze o ljudima, mjestima i kulturama opisanim u Svetom pismu. A kako vreme prolazi opisi u biblijskim knjigama pokazali su se pouzdanijim od špekulacija naučnika. Moderni posetioci muzeja i područja iz Biblije ne mogu a da ne odu impresionirani sa istorijskim potvrdama biblijskog teksta.

Isusova potvrda Biblije

Mnogi su pozitivno govorili o Bibliji, no nijedno odobrenje nije tako nesavladivo i snažno kao ono Isusa iz Nazareta. On je Bibliju preporučio ne samo svojim riječima, već svojim životom. U vremenu ličnih iskušenja, javnih podučavanja i lične patnje jasno je dao do znanja da je u potpunosti verovao u starozavetne tekstove i da su ti tekstovi više od narodne tradicije (Matej, 4:1-11; 5:17-19). Verovao je da je Biblija knjiga o Njemu samome. A svojim zemljacima je rekao: "Pregledajte pisma, jer vi mislite da imate u njima život večni; i ona svedoče za mene. I nećete da dođete k meni da imate život." (Jovan 5, 39-40).

Biblijska proročanstva

Još za vreme Mojsijeva života Biblija je predvidela događaje u koje niko nije hteo poverovati. Pre nego šta je Izrael ušao u obećanu zemlju, Mojsije je predvideo da će Izrael biti neveran te da će izgubiti zemlju koju mu je Bog davao, da će biti raspršen širom sveta, ponovo skupljen i ponovo podignut kao narod (5. Mojsijeva 28-31). Glavno proročanstvo Staroga zaveta bilo je obećanje Mesije koji će spasiti Božji narod od njegova greha i na kraju doneti konačni sud i mir celom svetu.

Održivost Biblije

Mojsijevo petoknjižje je sastavljeno 500 godina pre nego što su zapisani Hindu sveti spisi. Mojsije je svoju prvu knjigu (Postanje) napisao 2.000 godina pre nego što je napisan Kuran. Kroz celu, tako dugu istoriju, ni jedna knjiga nije tako voljena ili mržena kao Biblija. Nijedna druga knjiga se nije tako neprekidno kupovala, proučavala i citirala kao ova knjiga. Dok milioni drugih naslova dođu i nestanu, Biblija je još uvek knjiga prema kojoj se sve druge religiozne i istorijske knjige upoređuju i prosuđuju.

Biblija menja živote

Nevernici često pokazuju na one koji tvrde da veruju u Bibliju, a da ih ona nije promenila. No, istoriju su takođe obeležili oni koje je ova knjiga učinila boljim ljudima. Deset zapovesti su izvor moralnog usmeravanja velikom broju ljudi. Davidovi Psalmi pružili su utehu u vremenu nevolje i gubitka. Isusova propoved na gori milionima je dala protivotrov tvrdoglavom ponosu i ponosnom legalizmu. Pavlov opis ljubavi u prvoj Korinćanima 13 smekšao je srdita srca. Promenjeni životi ljudi poput Pavla, Augustina, Martina Lutera, Džona Njutna, Lea Tolstoja, i C. S. Luisa jasno ilustruju razliku koju Biblija može napraviti. Čak su celi narodi ili plemena, poput Kelta iz Irske, divljih Vikinga iz Norveške, ili Auka Indijanaca Ekvadora bili promenjeni Božjom Rečju i besprimernim životom i značajem Isusa Hrista.

Biblija pripada i tebi

Ako imaš pitanja u vezi pouzdanosti Biblije, nisi jedini. Pismo je, poput sveta oko nas obeleženo elementima misterije. No, ako je Biblija ono za šta se predstavlja, ne moraš sam pokušavati sortirati dokaze. Za pomoć kod provere neka ti posluži Isusovo obećanje božanske pomoći onima koji žele spoznati istinu o Njemu i Njegovim učenjima. Kao centralna ličnost Novoga zaveta, Isus je rekao: "Ko hoće Njegovu volju tvoriti, razumeće je li ova nauka od Boga ili ja sam od sebe govorim." (Jovan 7:17).

Jedan veoma važan ključ za razumevanje Biblije jest taj da nas ona nikada nije samo nameravala približiti sebi. Svaki princip u Svetom pismu pokazuje nam našu potrebu za oproštenjem koje nam je Hrist obezbedio u naše ime. Pokazuje nam zašto trebamo dopustiti Duhu Božjem da živi kroz nas. Biblija nam je data upravo zato da imamo takav odnos.

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Pitam se šta sve ovdje nije ćorav posao

[Avocado]

Nigdje ne stoji da je kao ta ploča

 

 

Hebrejska reč koja je tu iskorišćena se koristi za kružnicu a ne za loptu (sferu). Iz istorije znamo da su Jevreji u tom periodu verovali u to da je Zemlja ravna, kružna ploča.

 

 

U bukvalističkom smislu da, Biblija koristi poznati jezik tako je napisano da će Avram imati potomaka koliko zvijezda, poganih ljudi će biti kao pijska morskog. to je način izražavanja u hebrejskom

 

 

Tako je. U pitanju su književne figure, a ne iznošenje činjenica o univerzumu. Moja primedba se upravo na to i odnosi.

 

Smatrala je u srednjem vijeku.

 

 

Koji srednjevekovni naučnik je smatrao da Zemlja leži na velikoj životinji?

 

 

U Bibliji nema suprotnosti. (Kasnije ću vidjeti stih u Psalmu)

 

 

 

 

A ko je rekao da slobodno lebdi u svemiru?

 

 

Ti u prethodnoj poruci.

 

 

Čime dokazuje da su Jevreji vjerovali za svod zviejzda oko Zemlje.

 

 

To je prosto opšte-poznato o kosmologiji starih Jevreja... ne znam šta da ti sad dam od izvora, evo npr.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_cosmology#Cosmography_.28shape_and_structure_of_the_cosmos.29

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_astronomy

 

Uostalom, piše ti u samom Postanju:

 

Потом рече Бог: нека буду видјела на своду небеском, да дијеле дан и ноћ, да буду знаци временима и данима и годинама;

И нека свијетле на своду небеском, да обасјавају земљу. И би тако.

И створи Бог два видјела велика: видјело веће да управља даном, и видјело мање да управља ноћу, и звијезде.

И постави их Бог на своду небеском да обасјавају земљу.

 

 

Piše da je stvroena iz ničega, da nije postojala materija. Samom svojom Riječju je Bog stvorio svijet

 

 

Tako je. To sam i napisao. Dakle, slažeš se sa mojom primedbom da tu ne piše ono što si napisao u prethodnoj poruci (citiram) "Stvorenje načinjeno iz nevidljivih elemenata"

 

(tačnije, nisi ti napisao, nego kopirao nečiji prevod američkog, protestantskog pamfleta)

[Creationism]

Scientific Facts In The Bible

Also See

Scientists are now finding that the universe in which we live is like a diamond studded Rolex, except the universe is even more precisely designed than the watch. In fact, the universe is specifically tweaked to enable life on earth. Anthropic Principles

Contrast the information on this page with the scientific knowledge of The Qur’an. For example Sura 18:86 states "Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: See Errors in The Qur’an, which Contradict Secular and Scientific Data

“When studying the science of the ancient world, one is more apt to be impressed with its ignorance than to admire its accuracy. However, the Bible offers a definite exception to this rule. The scriptures are replete with statements suggesting scientific knowledge which predates the corresponding discoveries of secular science. Given that Bible writers were not scientists, and given that the scientific information at their disposal was generally misleading, the accuracy of the Bible can only be attributed to the inspiration of God.” [1]

Examples of the more striking scientific accuracy in the Bible include

[Creationism]

Scientific Facts In The Bible

Also See

Scientists are now finding that the universe in which we live is like a diamond studded Rolex, except the universe is even more precisely designed than the watch. In fact, the universe is specifically tweaked to enable life on earth. Anthropic Principles

Contrast the information on this page with the scientific knowledge of The Qur’an. For example Sura 18:86 states "Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: See Errors in The Qur’an, which Contradict Secular and Scientific Data

“When studying the science of the ancient world, one is more apt to be impressed with its ignorance than to admire its accuracy. However, the Bible offers a definite exception to this rule. The scriptures are replete with statements suggesting scientific knowledge which predates the corresponding discoveries of secular science. Given that Bible writers were not scientists, and given that the scientific information at their disposal was generally misleading, the accuracy of the Bible can only be attributed to the inspiration of God.” [1]

Examples of the more striking scientific accuracy in the Bible include

The Universe

Time and Space:

Most people read the very first verse in the Bible, without giving it another though. However a closer examination of this verse reveals that the author of Genesis verbalized exactly the same sophisticated principle that scientists would use thousands of years later. Science expresses the universe in five terms: time, space, matter, power and motion. So does Genesis 1.

"In the beginning (time) God created (power) the Heaven (space) and the Earth (matter)... And the Spirit of God moved (motion) upon the face of the waters." [Genesis 1:1,3 … written some 3450 years ago].

The Beginning:

The word "beginning" refers specifically to the beginning of time. However for many years scientists were convinced that the universe was infinite (without end), and that time had always existed. The COsmic Background Explorer (COBE), also referred to as Explorer 66, was a NASA space mission designed to test the Big Bang theory of the origin of the universe and apparently provided evidence that supported the idea that the universe had a beginning..

Note: The Big Bang theory, initially proposed in 1946 by George Gamow, a Russian-born scientist who believed that a primeval fireball, or an intense concentration of pure energy at some finite time in the past was the source of all the matter that now exists in the universe.

I wonder how many billions of dollars Explorer 66 cost. Yet someone only had to open the first page of a $10.00 Bible to know the universe had a beginning, before which there was …

An Initial Void:

A Time Magazine article dated Dec. 1976 said

“Most cosmologists… scientists who study the structure and evolution of the universe, agree that the biblical account of creation, in imagining an initial void, may be uncannily close to the truth.” [Emphasis Added]

Adding

“… in 1929, when Astronomer Edwin Hubble used shifts in the spectral lines of light emanating from distant galaxies to calculate that the islands of stars are moving at tremendous speeds away from the earth−and from each other−like dots painted on the surface of an expanding balloon. To some scientists, this outward rush of the galaxies suggested an original cosmic explosion”. [2]

Edwin Hubble showed that distant galaxies were, receding from the earth, and the further away they were, the faster they were moving, which leads to an interesting conclusion.. the earth is the center of God's attention in the universe. Surprise! Surprise! However not only are the galaxies rushing outward, but

An Expanding Universe:

The prophet Isaiah who lived almost 3,000 years ago stated

"It is He that . . . stretches out the heavens as a curtain, and spreads them out as a tent to dwell in." [40:22]

Scientists are beginning to understand that the universe is expanding, or stretching out. Scripture clearly tells us At least seven times that God stretches out the heavens like a curtain.

Space is Empty:

In ancient times it was variously believed that the earth sat on a large animal or a giant or even that a mythical Atlas supported the pillars that held heaven and earth apart, and/or carried the earth around on his shoulders (Where he stood while doing so presents an interesting conundrum). However in what is probably the oldest book of the Bible, Job, living in an ancient culture that knew nothing about space or planets, asserted that God hung the earth on nothing (1500 B.C.) or, in other words, the earth free floats in space.

"He stretches out the north over empty space; he hangs the earth on nothing [Job 26:7]

A fascinating tidbit from scientific history makes the first part of this verse even more telling. Until very recently scientists believed space consisted of a hypothetical substance called Ether. Note the following from Eric Weisstein's World of Science [All Emphasis Added]

Ether, or luminiferous Ether, was the hypothetical substance through which electromagnetic waves travel. It was proposed by the greek philosopher Aristotle and used by several optical theories as a way to allow propagation of light, which was believed to be impossible in "empty" space.

It was supposed that the ether filled the whole universe and was a stationary frame of reference, which was rigid to electromagnetic waves but completely permeable to matter. Hooke endorsed the idea of the existence of the ether in his work Micrographia (1665), and other several philosophers of the 17th century, including Huygens, did the same. At the time of Maxwell's mathematical studies of electromagnetism (in the 1860’s), ether was still assumed to be the propagation medium and was imbued with physics properties such as permeability and permittivity.

In 1887, a crucial experiment was performed by Michelson and Edward Morley in an attempt to detect the existence of the ether. The experiment, named the Michelson-Morley experiment in honor of its authors, shocked the scientific community by yielding results which implied the non-existence of ether. This result was later on used by Einstein to refute the existence of the ether and allowed him to develop special relativity without this artificial (and non-existent) constraint. [3]

Which bring us to the second half of Job 26:7…

That Hole In The North

Another interesting tidbit that illuminates the divine origin of Scripture is the recent discovery of a huge hole in space… in the direction of the northern hemisphere

The universe has a huge hole in it that dwarfs anything else of its kind. The discovery caught astronomers by surprise. The hole is nearly a billion light-years across. It is not a black hole, which is a small sphere of densely packed matter. Rather, this one is mostly devoid of stars, gas and other normal matter, and it's also strangely empty of the mysterious "dark matter" that permeates the cosmos. Other space voids have been found before, but nothing on this scale. [4]

This "gap" is in the Northern Hemisphere, lying in the general direction of the constellation Bootes. This "hole in space" is a 300 million light year gap in the distribution of galaxies, has taken cosmologists by surprise, not because it exists, but because it is so big.

Indeed, He stretches out the north over the empty place.

Air Has Weight:

The fact that air has weight was proven scientifically only about 300 years ago. The relative weights of air and water are needed for the efficient functioning of the world’s hydrologic cycle, which in turn sustains life on the earth.

When He imparted weight to the wind and meted out the waters by measure [Job 28:25] [Emphasis Added]

Those Singing Stars...

Science has discovered that stars emit radio waves, which are received on earth as a high pitch. God mentioned this in Job 38:7: "When the morning stars sang together..." In fact…

The galaxy is full of objects that emit radio waves, including black holes and stars of various kinds [5]

... And There are Quite a Few of Them:

The first star catalogue was compiled by the Egyptian astronomer Ptolemy in the 2nd century ad. Called the Almagest, it listed the names and locations of 1,028 stars. However, because of telescopes such as the Hubble, we now know that...

Stars are not spread uniformly across the universe, but are normally grouped into galaxies along with interstellar gas and dust. A typical galaxy contains hundreds of billions of stars, and there are more than 100 billion (1011) galaxies in the observable universe. While it is often believed that stars only exist within galaxies, intergalactic stars have been discovered. Astronomers estimate that there are at least 70 sextillion (7×1022) stars in the observable universe. [Wikipedia].

But didn’t God already say that?? [All Emphasis Added]

God said to Abraham 'Look now toward heaven, and count the stars if you are able to number them.' And He said to him, 'So shall your descendants be.'(Genesis 15:5)".

'As the host of heaven (stars) cannot be numbered, nor the sand of the sea measured, so will I multiply the descendants of David My servant (Jeremiah 33:22).

"Therefore from one man, ...were born as many as the stars of the sky in multitude-- innumerable as the sand which is by the seashore. (Hebrews 11:12)"

“The Bible asserts that the stars are innumerable (Genesis 15:5, Genesis 17:7, Hebrews 11:12). This does not necessarily mean that we are incapable of mathematically expressing their number. It means that no human has the ability to count them individually so as to achieve their sum. It is claimed that there are 100 billion stars in our galaxy alone. If stars were counted around the clock at one star per second, then it would take over 3000 years just to count these. Add to this the fact that there are as many as 100 billion galaxies. However, there were many scholars prior to Galileo who believed that the stars could be counted, and several attempts were made to do so. Many of these counts arrived at around 1000 stars.” [1]

Which brings Psalm 8: 3-4 to mind

When I consider Your heavens, the work of Your fingers, The moon and the stars, which You have ordained; What is man that You take thought of him, And the son of man that You care for him?

The Earth

Atoms:

All matter is composed of atoms. Only in recent years has science discovered that everything we see is composed of things that we cannot see- tiny invisible particles called atoms, made up of electrons and protons, which are really not solids, but positive and negative charges of electricity. The author of the books of Hebrews wrote about atomic structure, whether he specifically understood it or not, nearly 2000 years before it was discovered by scientists.

By faith we understand that the worlds were prepared by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things which are visible. [Hebrews 11:3] [Emphasis Added]

Interestingly the atom has a dense center called the nucleus, inside which are neutrons, which have no electrical charge and are therefore neutral and protons, which have positive charges. One law of electricity is that like charges repel one another. Therefore, since the protons inside the nucleus are all positive charges, they should repel one another and scatter, but for some reason they do not. There is a binding force, not yet understood, holding them together. Hmmm!

"For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together." (Colossians 1:16-17).

The Earth is a Sphere:

The following statement was made some 2800 years ago (some 750 years before Christ) by a divinely inspired Isaiah.

"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in." (Isaiah 40:22)

Although Aristotle provided observational evidence for the spherical Earth around 330 BC, most pre-Socratic philosophers, including Leucippus (c. 440 BC) and Democritus (c. 460-370 BC) believed in a flat earth. However, by the time of Christopher Columbus he and most other educated person of their time) knew that the earth was round. In fact, the Greek mathematician Eratostenes had accurately calculated the earth's circumference in the third century before Christ.

“Other statements in the Bible also indicate that God revealed this truth long ago. For example, David said that God has removed our transgression from us as far as the east is from the west (Ps 103:12). On a spherical surface, east and west are infinitely separated in the sense that one can travel indefinitely in either direction without ever attaining the other. However, Solomon described the wind as blowing in circuits, first towards the south and then turning toward the north. North and south are not infinitely separated as east and west, because a southward traveler on a spherical surface will be heading north after crossing the south pole”. [1]

Also take a moment to really consider the next verse.. [Emphasis Added]

"He has inscribed a circle on the surface of the waters at the boundary of light and darkness." (Job 26:10)

Job 26:10 clearly refers to the line of demarcation between day and night. No other interpretation is possible. Such a view of the curved horizon at sunrise or sunset can only be seen from extremely high altitudes reached only by military jets and spacecraft. These writers were given a view of the Earth as a sphere long before Eratosthenes--by measuring shadows in Egyptian wells--determined that the earth was round in 240BC. Although there is a specific Hebrew word for "sphere," the word used in these passages ("khug") can mean both circle or sphere. It refers to the shape of an orange as it might be represented in a two-dimensional picture. [6]

Please note that verses like Isaiah 11:12 that refer to "the four corners of the earth", are a colloquialism that is still used today to portray the four compass extremities of the earth. In fact the Strongs Greek/Hebrew dictionary defines the word "corner" (gonia) as angle, or quadrant.

[Creationism]

The Rotation Of The Earth:

was likely revealed in Job 38:12, where God asks of Job:

Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place; that it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.

“God asks Job if he has ever dictated the time of the morning or the location of the sunrise (dayspring). As soon as the sun is risen, its light will take hold of the ends of the earth in the sense that it touches all of the landscape, and the wicked are shaken out of it (the earth) in the sense that thieves, drunkards, adulterers, and others who practice their sins in darkness are forced to desist from these activities as they retreat from the light. Also, the beauties of the earth are revealed by the light, and its coloration is made to appear as that of a beautiful garment. Finally, the text asserts that God's command of the morning derives from His control of the earth, which is turned as clay to the seal. Hence, the suggestion is that God regulates the morning by rotating the earth as a potter rotates the clay. Yet ancient wisdom would have asserted that God regulated the morning by control of the Sun, and indeed, this is the perception of any uninformed mind”. [1]

The Orbit of The Sun:

Scientists have long believed that the earth revolved around the sun, which was stationary. This caused them to scoff at the following verses which, they said, taught the opposite…

"In them has He set a tabernacle for the sun, which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoices as a strong man to run a race. His [the sun's] going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof." [Psalm 19:4-6]

However it was later discovered that the sun is in fact moving through space at approximately 600,000 miles per hour. It is traveling through the heavens and has a "circuit" just as the Bible says. It is estimated that its circuit is so large, it would take 200 million years to complete one orbit.

Gravitational Properties of Constellations:

God asked Job

“Can you bind the cluster of the Pleiades, Or loose the belt of Orion?” (Job 38:31).

“In the last century astrophysicists have discovered that the stars of Pleiades move in unison with each other, and are thus gravitationally bound. They have also discovered that the stars of Orion are free agents that are not gravitationally bound! Interestingly, the three stars that comprise Orion's belt appear to be closer together than the outer stars in the constellation, but are actually farther apart! (they appear closer together because of the 2-D plane we see them in)”. [7a] All Emphasis Added

Pangaea and Peleg:

The Pangaea theory is the hypothesis that the continents once formed a single landmass (called Pangaea which means 'all lands' in Greek) before breaking apart and drifting to their present locations. Although the idea caused sharp disagreement among geologists, evidence in favour of continental drift is now extensive. Geological similarities on matching continental edges suggest that they were once joined. Also, the continents resemble pieces of a huge jigsaw puzzle that fit together perfectly. For example the coastline of the West Coast of Africa fits perfectly with the coastline of East Coast of South America

And what does the Bible say..

Genesis 10:25 speaks of a man, whose name Peleg means division. The text then explains that he was so named because in his days the earth was divided.

However in the interest of fairness, it has to be mentioned that there are those that believe that a far more likely explanation for Genesis 10:25 is that it refers to the division of humans into many diverse communities which started with the linguistic division at Babel. However, this is hard to believe since only eight verses later the Bible states, 'Now the whole earth had one language and one speech' (Genesis 11:1), and as a result of their disobedience, 'the LORD confused the language of all the earth' (Genesis 11:9). .

First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics:

The 1st Law of Thermodynamics states that matter can be neither created nor destroyed, and that the amount of matter in the universe remains constant. If the First Law is correct, which every scientific measurement ever made has confirmed, then the universe could not have created itself, it must have been created in the past, no further creating must be going on, and no loss of creation is occurring. The Bible is the only religious book that correctly portrays the First Law by 1) its description in Genesis of a Creator who is no longer creating, and 2) a Creator who is "upholding all things by the word of his power (Hebrews 1:3)" .

Genesis 2:1 says (after creation):

"Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them."

The Hebrew word used here is the past definite tense for the verb "finished," indicating an action completed in the past, never again to occur. The creation was "finished" -- once and for all. That is what the First Law of Thermodynamics says. It states that neither matter nor energy can be either created or destroyed. There is no "creation" ongoing today. It is "finished" exactly as the Bible states.

The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, which states that all systems degenerate from order to disorder, was regarded by Albert Einstein to be the premier Law in science. Again the Bible is the only religious book to accurately describe this Law:

"For the heavens will vanish away like smoke, the earth will grow old like a garment... (Isaiah 51:6)",

and also a New Testament rendering:

"You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands. They will perish, but You remain; and they will all grow old like a garment; (Hebrews 1:10-11)" [7a]

Also See The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics... A Law Against Evolution

Talking Lightning?:

When God said in Job 38:35 (written 3,500 years ago)…

"Can you send lightnings, that they may go and say unto you, Here we are?"

It certainly seemed to be a scientifically ludicrous statement -- that light can be sent, and then manifest itself in speech. But did you know that radio waves move at the speed of light? This is why you can have instantaneous wireless communication with someone on the other side of the earth. Science didn't discover this until 1864 when "the British scientist James Clerk Maxwell suggested that electricity and light waves were two forms of the same thing". [8]

Similarly, Job 38:19 asks, "Where is the way where light dwells?" Modern man has only recently discovered that light (electromagnetic radiation) has a "way," traveling at 186,000 miles per second.

The Treasures of The Snow:

In the book of Job (written some 3,500 years ago), God asks Job if he had entered into

“the treasures of the snow” [38:22].

I can just hear the critics of yesteryear … Huh! Did He mean that blanket of white stuff that covers everything? What treasures could there possibly be in that? However with the advent of the microscope man discovered that each and every single snowflake is uniquely a symmetrical "treasure."

The Hydrologic Cycle:

The Mississippi River, which is just one of thousands of rivers all over this planet, dumps over six million gallons of water per second into the Gulf of Mexico. The answer to where all that water goes lies in the hydrologic cycle, or circulation of the earth's water… something that was not fully accepted until the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, although the earliest literature indicating an understanding of this cycle was apparently around the third or fourth century BC.. Aristotle demonstrated only a vague understanding of this process… though he recognized that rain came from clouds, he incorrectly postulated that air turned into water and vice versa.

Either way the Bible accurately portrays of this cycle 2500 years before it was widely accepted. Note the following passages:

For He draws up the drops of water, they distill rain from the mist, which the clouds pour down, they drip upon man abundantly. [Job 36:27,28]

The One who builds His upper chambers in the heavens And has founded His vaulted dome over the earth, He who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out on the face of the earth, The LORD is His name. [Amos 9:6]

It has only recently been learned that most clouds are formed by ocean evaporation, but again the Bible had it right centuries ago:

"All the rivers run into the sea, yet the sea is not full; to the place from which the rivers come, there they return again [Ecclesiastes 1:7]".

The complex nature of how water is supported in clouds despite being heavier than air is clearly implied when God declared to Job [Emphasis Added]

"Do you know how the clouds are balanced, those wondrous works of Him who is perfect in knowledge (Job 37:16). [7a]

Furthermore...

Measuring The Waters:

Modern science has proved that the quantity of water on Earth is just enough for our needs. If the sea became three meters deeper, the water would absorb all the carbon dioxide and nitrogen, and no creature could live any longer.

Isaiah 40:12 (written 2800 years ago) "Who has measured the waters in the hollow of His hand..."

We are told that God has measured the waters and set a proper amount of water on the Earth.

[Creationism]

Odg: Biblija i Nauka:Naučne,Istorijske i Arhaeološke činjenice u Bibliji

« Odgovor #2 poslato: Jul 15, 2011, 01:17:17 pm »

The Rotation Of The Earth:

was likely revealed in Job 38:12, where God asks of Job:

Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place; that it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.

“God asks Job if he has ever dictated the time of the morning or the location of the sunrise (dayspring). As soon as the sun is risen, its light will take hold of the ends of the earth in the sense that it touches all of the landscape, and the wicked are shaken out of it (the earth) in the sense that thieves, drunkards, adulterers, and others who practice their sins in darkness are forced to desist from these activities as they retreat from the light. Also, the beauties of the earth are revealed by the light, and its coloration is made to appear as that of a beautiful garment. Finally, the text asserts that God's command of the morning derives from His control of the earth, which is turned as clay to the seal. Hence, the suggestion is that God regulates the morning by rotating the earth as a potter rotates the clay. Yet ancient wisdom would have asserted that God regulated the morning by control of the Sun, and indeed, this is the perception of any uninformed mind”. [1]

The Orbit of The Sun:

Scientists have long believed that the earth revolved around the sun, which was stationary. This caused them to scoff at the following verses which, they said, taught the opposite…

"In them has He set a tabernacle for the sun, which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoices as a strong man to run a race. His [the sun's] going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof." [Psalm 19:4-6]

However it was later discovered that the sun is in fact moving through space at approximately 600,000 miles per hour. It is traveling through the heavens and has a "circuit" just as the Bible says. It is estimated that its circuit is so large, it would take 200 million years to complete one orbit.

Gravitational Properties of Constellations:

God asked Job

“Can you bind the cluster of the Pleiades, Or loose the belt of Orion?” (Job 38:31).

“In the last century astrophysicists have discovered that the stars of Pleiades move in unison with each other, and are thus gravitationally bound. They have also discovered that the stars of Orion are free agents that are not gravitationally bound! Interestingly, the three stars that comprise Orion's belt appear to be closer together than the outer stars in the constellation, but are actually farther apart! (they appear closer together because of the 2-D plane we see them in)”. [7a] All Emphasis Added

Pangaea and Peleg:

The Pangaea theory is the hypothesis that the continents once formed a single landmass (called Pangaea which means 'all lands' in Greek) before breaking apart and drifting to their present locations. Although the idea caused sharp disagreement among geologists, evidence in favour of continental drift is now extensive. Geological similarities on matching continental edges suggest that they were once joined. Also, the continents resemble pieces of a huge jigsaw puzzle that fit together perfectly. For example the coastline of the West Coast of Africa fits perfectly with the coastline of East Coast of South America

And what does the Bible say..

Genesis 10:25 speaks of a man, whose name Peleg means division. The text then explains that he was so named because in his days the earth was divided.

However in the interest of fairness, it has to be mentioned that there are those that believe that a far more likely explanation for Genesis 10:25 is that it refers to the division of humans into many diverse communities which started with the linguistic division at Babel. However, this is hard to believe since only eight verses later the Bible states, 'Now the whole earth had one language and one speech' (Genesis 11:1), and as a result of their disobedience, 'the LORD confused the language of all the earth' (Genesis 11:9). .

First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics:

The 1st Law of Thermodynamics states that matter can be neither created nor destroyed, and that the amount of matter in the universe remains constant. If the First Law is correct, which every scientific measurement ever made has confirmed, then the universe could not have created itself, it must have been created in the past, no further creating must be going on, and no loss of creation is occurring. The Bible is the only religious book that correctly portrays the First Law by 1) its description in Genesis of a Creator who is no longer creating, and 2) a Creator who is "upholding all things by the word of his power (Hebrews 1:3)" .

Genesis 2:1 says (after creation):

"Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them."

The Hebrew word used here is the past definite tense for the verb "finished," indicating an action completed in the past, never again to occur. The creation was "finished" -- once and for all. That is what the First Law of Thermodynamics says. It states that neither matter nor energy can be either created or destroyed. There is no "creation" ongoing today. It is "finished" exactly as the Bible states.

The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, which states that all systems degenerate from order to disorder, was regarded by Albert Einstein to be the premier Law in science. Again the Bible is the only religious book to accurately describe this Law:

"For the heavens will vanish away like smoke, the earth will grow old like a garment... (Isaiah 51:6)",

and also a New Testament rendering:

"You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands. They will perish, but You remain; and they will all grow old like a garment; (Hebrews 1:10-11)" [7a]

Also See The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics... A Law Against Evolution

Talking Lightning?:

When God said in Job 38:35 (written 3,500 years ago)…

"Can you send lightnings, that they may go and say unto you, Here we are?"

It certainly seemed to be a scientifically ludicrous statement -- that light can be sent, and then manifest itself in speech. But did you know that radio waves move at the speed of light? This is why you can have instantaneous wireless communication with someone on the other side of the earth. Science didn't discover this until 1864 when "the British scientist James Clerk Maxwell suggested that electricity and light waves were two forms of the same thing". [8]

Similarly, Job 38:19 asks, "Where is the way where light dwells?" Modern man has only recently discovered that light (electromagnetic radiation) has a "way," traveling at 186,000 miles per second.

The Treasures of The Snow:

In the book of Job (written some 3,500 years ago), God asks Job if he had entered into

“the treasures of the snow” [38:22].

I can just hear the critics of yesteryear … Huh! Did He mean that blanket of white stuff that covers everything? What treasures could there possibly be in that? However with the advent of the microscope man discovered that each and every single snowflake is uniquely a symmetrical "treasure."

The Hydrologic Cycle:

The Mississippi River, which is just one of thousands of rivers all over this planet, dumps over six million gallons of water per second into the Gulf of Mexico. The answer to where all that water goes lies in the hydrologic cycle, or circulation of the earth's water… something that was not fully accepted until the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, although the earliest literature indicating an understanding of this cycle was apparently around the third or fourth century BC.. Aristotle demonstrated only a vague understanding of this process… though he recognized that rain came from clouds, he incorrectly postulated that air turned into water and vice versa.

Either way the Bible accurately portrays of this cycle 2500 years before it was widely accepted. Note the following passages:

For He draws up the drops of water, they distill rain from the mist, which the clouds pour down, they drip upon man abundantly. [Job 36:27,28]

The One who builds His upper chambers in the heavens And has founded His vaulted dome over the earth, He who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out on the face of the earth, The LORD is His name. [Amos 9:6]

It has only recently been learned that most clouds are formed by ocean evaporation, but again the Bible had it right centuries ago:

"All the rivers run into the sea, yet the sea is not full; to the place from which the rivers come, there they return again [Ecclesiastes 1:7]".

The complex nature of how water is supported in clouds despite being heavier than air is clearly implied when God declared to Job [Emphasis Added]

"Do you know how the clouds are balanced, those wondrous works of Him who is perfect in knowledge (Job 37:16). [7a]

Furthermore...

Measuring The Waters:

Modern science has proved that the quantity of water on Earth is just enough for our needs. If the sea became three meters deeper, the water would absorb all the carbon dioxide and nitrogen, and no creature could live any longer.

Isaiah 40:12 (written 2800 years ago) "Who has measured the waters in the hollow of His hand..."

We are told that God has measured the waters and set a proper amount of water on the Earth.

Air Currents:

The wind goes toward the south, And turns around to the north; The wind whirls about continually, And comes again on its circuit. [Ecclesiastes 1:6]

The Bible describes the circulation of the atmosphere.

The Bible includes some principles of fluid dynamics.

The Oceans

The Paths Of The Seas:

The Bible says

What is man, that thou art mindful of him? And the son of man, that thou visitest him? For thou hast made him but little lower than God, And crownest him with glory and honor. Thou makest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; Thou hast put all things under his feet: All sheep and oxen, Yea, and the beasts of the field, The birds of the heavens, and the fish of the sea, Whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas. [Psalms 8:4-8] [Emphasis Added]

When the Bible speaks of “the paths of the seas” it is more than likely that it is referring to ocean currents, which was discovered by man only in the 1850’s. The following history of the discovery of these “paths” has been excerpted from Answers in Genesis…

American naval officer and oceanographer Matthew Maury (1806-1873) who wrote the first textbook on modern oceanography called The Physical Geography of the Sea and Its Meteorology, was a Christian who had no doubts about the accuracy of the Bible. After an accident partially disabled him ending his active duty with the Navy, he was appointed superintendent of the US Naval Observatory in Washington. “In his Bible studies, the words of Psalm 8 stuck in his mind: ‘ ... whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas’. Maury determined that if God’s Word said there were ‘paths’ in the seas, then there must be paths. So he set out to find them.

He studied old ships’ logs. From these he compiled charts of ocean-wind and sea currents. To study the speed and direction of the ocean currents Maury set adrift weighted bottles known as ‘drift bottles’. These floated slightly below the surface of the water, and thus were not affected by wind. Instructions were sealed in each bottle directing anyone who found one washed ashore to return it. From the location and date on which the bottles were found, Maury was able to develop his charts of the ocean currents—the ‘paths’ of the seas—which greatly aided the science of marine navigation”. [9]

Mountains Under The Seas:

When Jonah, who lived some 2,800 years ago, was in the depths of the ocean, he spoke of going down to the "bottoms of the mountains”. [Emphasis Added]

"I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet have you brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God." [Jonah 2:6]

Only in recent years has man discovered that there are mountains on the ocean floor. The greatest ocean depth has been sounded in the Challenger Deep of the Mariana's Trench, a distance of 35,798 feet below sea level. Mount Everest is 29,035 feet high.

Springs Under The Seas:

Hydrothermal vents are found in areas of the ocean floor that are spreading, such as at mid-ocean ridges, where tectonic plates are being pulled apart. Molten magma then rises from deep inside the Earth, superheating the cold ocean water around it. The average temperature of deep-ocean water is only 2°C (36°F). The water coming directly from a hydrothermal vent can reach up to 350°C (662°F) and is rich in dissolved chemicals. The hot spring water forms a plume above the vent, somewhat like smoke rising from a chimney into the air.

The first underwater hot spring to be discovered was probably in 1977, when scientists discovered hot springs at a depth of 2.5 km, on the Galapagos Rift (spreading ridge) off the coast of Ecuador. Since then other hot springs have been found at a number of sites along the mid-oceanic ridges, many on the East Pacific Rise. Giant tube worms, huge clams, and mussels all thrive around the hot springs. [10]

Yet once again the Bible was slightly ahead of man’s discovery..

Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? Or hast thou walked in the recesses of the deep? [Job 38:16] [Emphasis Added]

Misc

The Dinosaur:

There is reasonable evidence that the scriptures speak of dinosaurs. As should be expected, this evidence comes from Genesis, the book of origins, and from the book of Job, generally believed to be the oldest book in the Bible.

First, Genesis 1:21 speaks of God creating whales on the fifth day of creation. The Hebrew word translated here as whales is generally translated dragons. It is translated as monsters once, whale(s) twice, serpent(s) thrice, and dragon(s) 21 times.

Second, Job's statements concerning the behemoth (Job 40:15-24) might be referring to dinosaurs. Its tail is compared to a cedar tree. Its strength, and apparently its bulk, is in its loins. It is said to be the chief of the ways of God, and is described as having the ability to drink up a river. No modern animal meets this description in all points. Some commentators think this was a hippopotamus. However, the hippo’s tail isn’t like a large tree, but a small twig. This creature also appears impervious to attack because his nose could pierce through snares

"Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eats grass as an ox. Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. He moves his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him. Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play. He lies under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens. The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about. Behold, he drinks up a river, and hastens not: he trusts that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth. He takes it with his eyes: his nose pierces through snares. (Job 40:15-24).

Third, Job's description of the leviathin (Job 41) very much resembles a dinosaur. Some would dismiss this description as fictitious because the leviathin is described as breathing fire; however, some creation scientists believe this could have happened. The creature would merely need glands to produce a chemical which would combust when exposed to air. The bombardier beetle does in fact have this ability. The fact that nearly every major culture of the world has traditions about such dragons lends yet further credibility to the possibility of their existence in the past. [1]

Apparently many scholars feel these descriptions refer to mythical or metaphorical animals, or the accounts could have been based on fossil skeletons. Why? Because the simultaneous existence of men and dinosaurs would turn their theories on their collective heads? Fossil Skeletons? Uh Huh! Somebody is going to have to explain to me how (and why) a man living some 3500 years ago would be engaged in an archaeological excavation… leave alone having the wherewithal to carry one out.

Why did the dinosaur disappear? This is something that has modern science mystified, but then Scripture says,

. . . He that made him can make his sword approach to him. [Job 40:19]

In other words, God caused this, the largest of all the creatures He had made, to become extinct.

Most of humankind has been brainwashed (courtesy of National Geographic, Time magazine, CNN and the Discovery channel) into believing that dinosaurs had walked this Earth millions of years ago. While evolutionists continue to maintain that ‘no man ever existed in the age of the reptiles’, the evidence documents exactly the opposite. See Section Dragons and Dinosaurs on THIS Page

Precise dimensions of Noah's Ark

The dimensions of Noah's Ark as described in the Bible are ideal for stability. In fact, South Korean architects who examined the dimensions found that the boat was virtually impossible to capsize! Their modeling and analysis found that the ark could survive waves higher than 30 meters! (note that a typical tsunami is only 10 meters high) [11]. Many other cultures have flood legends similar to the account in the Bible, but their ark descriptions were never palatable. For example, the Babylonian Gilgamesh Flood legend described an ark that was shaped like a cube, which would be horrible for stability.