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Husband Of Trump’s Education Secretary Once Promoted Intelligent Design In Schools

 

 

While running for governor of Michigan in 2006, Dick DeVos ― whose wife, Betsy, is now President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for U.S. secretary of education ― said that schools should have the option of teaching intelligent design alongside evolution.

Dick DeVos mounted an unsuccessful gubernatorial bid in Michigan against then-Gov. Jennifer Granholm (D) a decade ago. During his campaign, DeVos said school districts should be able to teach the idea that a higher power created life on earth. DeVos said he would support guidelines that would allow intelligent design to be included in science curricula. 

“I would like to see the ideas of intelligent design that many scientists are now suggesting is a very viable alternative theory,” DeVos, a Republican, told The Associated Press at the time. “That theory and others that would be considered credible would expose our students to more ideas, not less.” 

To be sure, DeVos’ comments were made 10 years ago, and his wife has given no indication that she’d like to use her position in the Trump administration to promote intelligent design in schools. But Dick DeVos’ views on religion and education run parallel to his wife’s in many areas, and the couple’s family foundation has made donations that critics say have enabled the encroachment of religious education in the public sphere.

Dick Devos’ campaign manager, Greg McNeilly, said in 2006 that DeVos thought “school boards should have the opportunity to offer evolution and intelligent design in science classes.”

“We support that local control,” McNeilly told the AP at the time.

On a cached version of DeVos’ campaign website from September 2006, the following statement from DeVos can be found:

I’ve always believed that our children should be provided with more knowledge, not less. Lots of intelligent people can disagree about the origins of life. In the end, I believe in our system of local control. Local school boards should have the opportunity to offer evolution and intelligent design in their curriculums.

 

 

At the time, groups like the American Civil Liberties Union fought back against DeVos’ statements.

“Public schools are not Sunday schools,” Kary L. Moss, executive director of the ACLU of Michigan, said in a 2006 statement. “DeVos’ comments are part of a misguided campaign to force religious creationism back into the public schools. It is unconstitutional and bad public policy.”

Dick DeVos, heir to the marketing company Amway, is a member of one of America’s richest families. On Wednesday, Trump announced his selection of Betsy DeVos as education secretary. The couple has a history of supporting various education causes together. Their family foundation backs causes like charter schools and school voucher programs. 

A spokesperson for the family said that Dick’s remarks were taken out of context at the time.

“What Dick said was he’s a strong supporter of local control - and decisions should be made locally, not by the state,” the spokesperson told The Huffington Post in an email.

It’s not clear what Betsy DeVos’ current stance is on intelligent design, if any. Trump’s transition team did not respond to a request for comment. 

Critics say that teaching intelligent design in schools amounts to an attack on the separation of church and state. In the 2005 court case Kitzmiller et al v. Dover, a federal judge said that teaching intelligent design as science violates the First Amendment by promoting “a particular version of Christianity.”

Maggie Garrett, legislative director for the group Americans United for Separation of Church and State, told HuffPost that “intelligent design isn’t science, it’s religion.”

“It should not be taught in a public school science classroom,” Garrett said. “The courts would agree with us on that one.”

Betsy and Dick DeVos have noted in the past that religion informs their philanthropy. Their foundation website states that “our faith motivates our giving; it is integral to who we are and what we do.” In the early 2000s, the foundation gave money to the Thomas More Law Center, the group that defended the school trying to teach intelligent design in the Dover case, according to the AP. 

Garrett also has concerns about Betsy DeVos’ support for school voucher programs. These programs allow students to use taxpayer money to attend private schools ― which are sometimes religious.

As of 2014, voucher and school choice programs in at least eight states had used taxpayer money to send kids to private schools that teach creationism, according to Slate.

A “fundamental value of religious freedom is that taxpayers should not be forced to fund religious education,” Garrett said. “But that’s really what vouchers do ― they funnel taxpayer dollars to religious schools and religious education.”

Trump’s selection of DeVos for education secretary has drawn praise from school choice groups like the National Alliance for Public Charter Schools.

“Betsy DeVos is a brilliant and passionate education advocate,” Trump said in a statement last week. “Under her leadership we will reform the US education system and break the bureaucracy that is holding our children back so that we can deliver world-class education and school choice to all families.”

 

 

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dick-devos-intelligent-design_us_583b693fe4b000af95ee9046

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Betsy DeVos: Her family, net worth, education and other facts to know

 

 

Betsy DeVos spearheads the American Federation for Children, an organization that promotes charter school education. Previously, she served on the Foundation for Excellence in Education, a group led by Bush. She and her husband have given millions of dollars every year to organizations that promote Christian and conservative values, such as the Focus on the Family and the Washington, D.C.-based think tank American Enterprise Institute. 

Although DeVos expressed interest in working with the Trump administration as secretary of education, she was once reluctant to support his GOP primary campaign. In an interview in March with the Washington Examiner, she thought Trump did not represent the Republican Party and declined to support him during the Republican National Convention. Instead, she cast her vote for Ohio Gov. John Kasich. 

 

https://mic.com/articles/160330/betsy-de-vos-her-family-net-worth-education-and-other-facts-to-know#.bGx9LLu0K

 

 

 

 

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Will Trump’s Presidency Empower Creationists?

Dec 7, 2016 by Rob Boston in Wall of Separation

 

There has been a lot of speculation about how President-elect Donald Trump’s pick to run the U.S. Department of Education, Betsy DeVos, might affect the issue of private school vouchers.

DeVos is known primarily for her advocacy of vouchers, and Trump has backed a nationwide plan with a staggering price tag of $20 billion. Many people are rightly alarmed.

But there’s another education-related issue we ought to be concerned about as well: creationism.

Trump’s vice president, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, is a creationist. DeVos’ husband, Dick, promoted teaching “intelligent design” creationism during his unsuccessful run for governor of Michigan in 2006. (Ben Carson, Trump’s choice to run the Department of Housing and Urban Development, is also a creationist, although he can probably do little damage there.)

What does Trump himself believe? It’s hard to say. Prior to the election, advisors told Trump that if he were asked if he believed in evolution or creationism, the safest reply was, “I believe both.”

Truth be told, it almost doesn’t matter what Trump believes or if he has even thought about the issue at all. He has kowtowed to the Religious Right so much that I’m sure he’d be happy to toss Charles Darwin under the bus if it was politically expedient. 

 

 

https://www.au.org/blogs/wall-of-separation/will-trump-s-presidency-empower-creationists

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A Possible Science Advisor to Donald Trump Called Noah’s Ark Theme Park “Amazing”

December 5, 2016 by Hemant Mehta 132 Comments

There’s some speculation by right-wing websites that Rep. Thomas Massie, a Republican Congressman from Kentucky, could become either the director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy or the next Secretary of Energy. It would be a disturbing pick by Donald Trump (surprise!) in part because Massie denies the science behind climate change.

 

 

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/12/05/a-possible-science-advisor-to-donald-trump-called-noahs-ark-theme-park-amazing/

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The “Donald Trump Phenomenon”

by Ken Ham on October 28, 2015

 

 

https://answersingenesis.org/ministry-news/ministry/donald-trump-phenomenon/

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пре 17 минута, о.Горан рече

It would be a disturbing pick by Donald Trump (surprise!) in part because Massie denies the science behind climate change.

Jedino što bi bilo disturbing je da se u Trampovom kabinetu nađe neko normalan. Ali bez brige, nema od toga ništa   

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Интересантно како многи нису осетљиви на атеистичке бајке, али зато им је питање климатских промена важније... Мада, ако је кадар који се бави климатским променама сличан овом што се бави настанком врста хахаха, надам се да није...

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пре 2 часа, о.Горан рече

Интересантно како многи нису осетљиви на атеистичке бајке, али зато им је питање климатских промена важније...

Много добра фора - прогласиш нешто за бајку и то самим тим постане бајка. Просто и лепо    

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пре 4 часа, о.Горан рече

A Possible Science Advisor to Donald Trump Called Noah’s Ark Theme Park “Amazing”

Samo debilčina može Ham-ov kolosalni promašaj da opiše sa "amazing"...

 

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Последњи статус владике Лазара: 

If your faith is seriously challenged by well proved truths and clearly demonstrable reality, then you do not, and likely never have had, faith, but have only adhered to a cultural ideology, closely bound to a political orientation, with a cloak of religion over it, a religion that is an element in your cultural ideology. The fact that "religion without actual faith" has to lie, distort and create fables in the face of solid, well proved science demonstrates the bankruptcy of your false faith claim and, because of you, calls the religion into question also. A living faith in the Living God has nothing to quake before when engaging with science, when encountering the discoveries of cosmology, physics and neuroscience. A faithless religious ideology has everything to fear from truth and reality and, indeed, from truth-based morality. There is a difference between a living faith and a religious obsession. Faithless religion resorts to every manner of immoral manipulation, such as the elements of "CreationISM" in order to attempt pervert public education and bully civil governments into propagating their religious obsession, rather than in striving to live the Gospel of Christ Jesus, which alone can lead us to everlasting life. A living faith can engage knowledge and the discoveries of all sciences with grace and assuredness, rather than with the trembling rage of religious obsession. Faith in God has nothing to fear from truth, from reality, from the profound illumination that comes to us from the sciences.

 

Искрено, да он није "наишао", можда бих и даље био атеиста...  

То је моћ истинског Хришћанства.

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Да, фино за катехизис за основце. Занимљиво да је овај владика врло либералан према хомосексуалцима( http://www.telegraf.rs/vesti/1605345-ovaj-kontroverzni-vladika-podrzava-gejeve-i-transseksualce ), али нешто није баш либералан и нешто нема баш љубав према браћи конзервативним протестантима( креационистима). Али добро, то је његова ствар која мене лично не обавезује ни на шта, а и не слажем се са таквим двоструким/троструким аршинима ни мало. Менталитет људи у Епархији у којој је он Епископ је сасвим другачији него овде, тако да ћу то да схватим као икономију.

 

Да... Сматрати себе за неко мерило није безазлено, то је махом нека прелест.

Ја, као што се да видети јасно и недвосмислено, гледам да износим мишљења многих људи( теолога и научника) са којима се лично слажем. И тек сам почео.

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пре 16 часа, о.Горан рече

Ја, као што се да видети јасно и недвосмислено, гледам да износим мишљења многих људи( теолога и научника) са којима се лично слажем. И тек сам почео.

 

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Није о креационизму, али пошто је тема активнија од главне, да турим ово вој:

"Лахко ти је Клинтонову побиједит. Ајд дођи у Босну и побиједи Бакира!"

"Трумпоња је њима амерички сан, а нама су Бакир, Додик и Човић босанска ноћна мора."

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пре 6 минута, Ћириличар рече

да турим ово вој:

Анонимни клињо из Босне (ба...), који није завршио факултет, нити је нешто значајно постигао у животу, изјавио за милијардера и председника САД да је дебил. 

У крајње лудом времену живимо, дефинитивно.

 

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пре 7 минута, Господин Дареалис рече

Анонимни клињо из Босне (ба...), који није завршио факултет, нити је нешто значајно постигао у животу, изјавио за милијардера и председника САД да је дебил. 

У крајње лудом времену живимо, дефинитивно.

 

Ау, па зар оно ви алтрајташи не бијасте сви за слободу говора и хумор и контекст?