Uloga ikona u Hriscanstvu

[dusha]

Svih zalosnih radost 

[dusha]

Donska

[Наца]

[мирођија]

                         

                                                :bla:

[dusha]

Mirodjija, evo za tebe, da se radujes

Dvostrana ikona facenew22222222

[dusha]

Na radost brata Martirija

Carska vrata, Hilandar facenew22222222 facenew22222222

[Viktor Ljvovic]

Hvala vam, Sanja i Evagrije, na interesantnim komentarima.

[Viktor Ljvovic]

Mali prilog temi:''Takvo zlo ucenje odbacio je Sveti (VII) Sabor ovako:''Neka ikonoborci cuju istinu: Mnoge od nasih stvari koje su posvecene ne trebaju svestenu molitvu, jer vec po sebi od samog imena (na Ikoni/Krstu) ispunjene su osvecenja i blagodati, i zato ih postujemo i celivamo kao dostojne casti. Tako, sam obrazac Zivotvornog Krsta, nacinjen bez svestene molitve, od nas je postovan, i zadovoljavamo se da njegovim obrazom dobijamo osvecenje. Isto je tako i za Ikonu: ispisivanjem imena (Svetoga na njoj) prenosimo cast na original, i celivamo je, pocasno se klanjajuci, i dobijamo osvecenje'' (Akta 7. Sabora, tom 2, str.844). Preuzeto iz, ep. Jevtic Atanasije, Hristos- Nova Pasha 3. tom, str. 327 (fusnota 17). 

[SANJA]

Hvala vam, Sanja i Evagrije, na interesantnim komentarima.

Nema na čemu. I mene ova tema zanima i nadam se da će još neko izneti svoje mišljenje.

[Viktor Ljvovic]

i nadam se da će još neko izneti svoje mišljenje.

- ja takodje.

[evagrij]

Greeks don’t bless Icons, but as you said we do bring them to church (usually on Orthodox Sunday) to be left there for 40 days. Theologically neither blessing by a prayer nor churching is required. The Icon is similar to the Bible, in other words it is the Word of God represented in images. From my book on Icons (Discovering the Icon) found on the web site there are two occasions where I mention how Icons receive their sanctification which I have pasted below:

1) The icon is sanctified through its communion with Christ and the saints, through the image and the inscription that it bears. It is holy in the same way that the Cross and the Bible are holy. St. Basil the Great says that iconographers are equal in honour to the Gospel writers. He says this because what the Gospels explain by means of words, the painter explains by means of his works. The Bible is holy not because of the paper and ink, but because the words it contains are the words of God, written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit. These words of God are holy because they proceeded from the mouth of God and sanctify us each time we hear them. In the same way we are sanctified through the Icon because it also is the word of God represented in images, and to put it another way, as the Icon is the image of Christ, so likewise the Bible is the verbal image of Christ, Both inspire and teach us how to live so that we may find the narrow road that leads to salvation.

2) An Icon must be a faithful interpretation of the prototype [original], showing a recognizable image and the name of the person it represents. The name identifies the person or persons and at the same time is a seal of sanctification, for as with the Cross and the Bible, the Icon does not need to have special prayers read over it or receive any other form of blessing by a priest to make it holy. It cannot receive any additional benefit from a priest’s blessing or any application of Myron [holy oil]. Some icons have no inscription, which is contrary to the theology of the Icon, for it is the inscription that brings about its sanctification: without it, the Icon remains a common work of art.

http://www.christopherklitou.com/answers_to_liturgical_queries_10.htm

[SANJA]

Znači, nije ih potrebno osveštavati...Oni koji imaju drugačije mišljenje, molim da argumentovano odgovore. Zašto je potrebno osveštavati nešto što je samo po sebi sveto?  0110_hahaha

[Viktor Ljvovic]

Problem je, po meni, ako je obred osvecenja svetih Ikona, Casnog Krsta, Svetog Evandljelja jereticki ikonoboracki obred (prema navedenim recima sv.Atanasija Paroskog), zbog cega se on vrsi u Pravoslavnim Crkvama (osim Grcke)?

[Zawisza]

Ne može sve da bude ikona što predstavlja sveca. Vi danas imate jedno podmuklo ikonoborstvo gde se na svakakve upotrebne predmete stavlja lik sveca. Na pepeljare, priveske za ključeve, rakijske flaše, retrovizore...

Time se samo banalizuje i svete stvari dovode na nekakav upotrebni nivo. Krajnji cilj sigurno nije i nema veze sa pobožnošću. Da ne pišem o navali kvaziikonopisaca o kojima smo pisali i došli do zajedničkog zaključka da im treba oduzeti četkice i boje i zabraniti im da"slikaju".

Sa truge strane  čovek je biće obreda. Sasvim je logično da postoji obred osvećenja ikone, sama po sebi ona je tek znak a tek osvećenjem postaje simbol.

[Viktor Ljvovic]

Vi danas imate jedno podmuklo ikonoborstvo gde se na svakakve upotrebne predmete stavlja lik sveca. Na pepeljare, priveske za ključeve, rakijske flaše, retrovizore...

- potpuno se slazem.