Umetnost

[Иван ♪♫]

 

 

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[w.a.mozart]

 

 

"All Art is Quite Useless."-Oscar Wilde

 

Umetnost je beskorisna (neupotrebljiva, bez praktične primene)

 

šta mislite o ovome?

 

Po meni, epohalna misao al sačekaću da čujem neke od reakcija

 

 

[Midrash]

 

 

"All Art is Quite Useless."-Oscar Wilde

 

Umetnost je beskorisna (neupotrebljiva, bez praktične primene)

 

šta mislite o ovome?

 

Po meni, epohalna misao al sačekaću da čujem neke od reakcija

 

 

Zavisi šta je napisao ispred. Nažalost, nisam čitao, pa ne mogu da kažem Ali sumnjam da misli da je u svakom smislu beskorisna. Pa, čak i da je beskorisna, neupotrebljiva u nekom konkretnom smislu, ona je izraz lepote ljudske duše - jednostavno je tu. No, ja mislim da je i te kako korisna, jer razvija i oplemenjuje dušu, čineći čoveka boljim.

[SHADOWS OF THE LIGHT]

prvo moramo da utvrdimo sta je korisnost i beskorisnost?

[keka]

No, ja mislim da je i te kako korisna, jer razvija i oplemenjuje dušu, čineći čoveka boljim.

 

i ja mislim tako 

[keka]

prvo moramo da utvrdimo sta je korisnost i beskorisnost?

 

sve je korisno.... korisno je i ono bekorisno, jer bez njega ne bi znali sta je korisno, i obrnuto

[w.a.mozart]

http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/01/art-is-useless-because.html

 

In 1890, following the publication of Oscar Wilde's novel, The Picture of Dorian Gray, an intrigued young fan named Bernulf Clegg wrote to the author and asked him to explain a now-famous line included in its preface: "All art is quite useless."

 

To Clegg's surprise, Wilde responded with the handwritten letter seen below.

Transcript follows.

 

16, TITE STREET,
CHELSEA. S.W.

My dear Sir

Art is useless because its aim is simply to create a mood. It is not meant to instruct, or to influence action in any way. It is superbly sterile, and the note of its pleasure is sterility. If the contemplation of a work of art is followed by activity of any kind, the work is either of a very second-rate order, or the spectator has failed to realise the complete artistic impression.

A work of art is useless as a flower is useless. A flower blossoms for its own joy. We gain a moment of joy by looking at it. That is all that is to be said about our relations to flowers. Of course man may sell the flower, and so make it useful to him, but this has nothing to do with the flower. It is not part of its essence. It is accidental. It is a misuse. All this is I fear very obscure. But the subject is a long one.

Truly yours,

Oscar Wilde

[SHADOWS OF THE LIGHT]

sve je korisno.... korisno je i ono bekorisno, jer bez njega ne bi znali sta je korisno, i obrnuto -smileys-327.gif" class="bbc_emoticon" title="confused1" />  

 

dobra si. greengrin ..al nisam na to mislio..vec koje je merilo korisnosti?ljudska ocena?

[Midrash]

Da...pa, Jasno je Oskar imao problem da razume šta je to umetnost. Ni lepota cveta nije beskorisna, jer privlači pčele, te ni svaka umetnost nije korisna za svakoga, nekog oplemenjuje, nekog ostavlja ravnodušnim...Malko nam je Oskar bio depresivan

[drvce]

Sve cime se bavimo bi trebalo da bude poput umetnosti.

[keka]

dobra si. greengrin ..al nisam na to mislio..vec koje je merilo korisnosti?ljudska ocena?

ma znam da nisi... al sta da ti kazem, uvek volim da zezam krizu i da ogovorom ne odgovaram  :10500:

[w.a.mozart]

Da...pa, Jasno je Oskar imao problem da razume šta je to umetnost. Ni lepota cveta nije beskorisna, jer privlači pčele, te ni svaka umetnost nije korisna za svakoga, nekog oplemenjuje, nekog ostavlja ravnodušnim...Malko nam je Oskar bio depresivan

 

pročitajte iznad... postoji pismo u kome je pojasnio šta je hteo da kaže

[SHADOWS OF THE LIGHT]

ma znam da nisi... al sta da ti kazem, uvek volim da zezam krizu i da ogovorom ne odgovaram  :10500:

 

znaci ja sam kriza u ovom slucaju...... tanning

[Midrash]

pročitajte iznad... postoji pismo u kome je pojasnio šta je hteo da kaže

Njega sam i komentarisao

[Aquilius Cratus]

Zasto bi krenuli od Vajldove postavke kada postoje i drugaciji nacini misljenja o umetnosti?! Recimo Alan Moore smatra da je umetnost zapravo magija i da je jedina prava magija zapravo umetnost. Da umetnost kad se sve podvuce jeste moc. Moc koju ni u masti nema sva misticna stran magijske tradicije.

 

Evo kako on to opisuje.

 

 

In all of magic there is an incredibly large linguistic component.  The Bardic tradition of magic would place a bard as being much higher and more fearsome than a magician.  A magician might curse you.  That might make your hands lay funny or you might have a child born with a club foot.  If a Bard were to place not a curse upon you, but a satire, then that could destroy you.  If it was a clever satire, it might not just destroy you in the eyes of your associates; it would destroy you in the eyes of your family.  It would destroy you in your own eyes.  And if it was a finely worded and clever satire that might survive and be remembered for decades, even centuries.  Then years after you were dead people still might be reading it and laughing at you and your wretchedness and your absurdity.  Writers and people who had command of words were respected and feared as people who manipulated magic.  In latter times I think that artists and writers have allowed themselves to be sold down the river.  They have accepted the prevailing belief that art and writing are merely forms of entertainment.  They’re not seen as transformative forces that can change a human being; that can change a society.  They are seen as simple entertainment; things with which we can fill 20 minutes, half an hour, while we’re waiting to die.  It’s not the job of the artist to give the audience what the audience wants.  If the audience knew what they needed, then they wouldn’t be the audience.  They would be the artists.  It is the job of artists to give the audience what they need. 

-Alan Moore