Pravno-religijsko pitanje greha silovanja u islamu

[Zeebedee]

Zasto se islamski verodstojnici ne bore protiv ovakvih sistema? Zasto dozvoljavate da drzave koje su pod potpunom kontrolom Islama izgledaju kao da su ispale iz srednjeg veka? Molim neki normalan odgovor koji se nece svesti na maloumne izjave o americkoj propagandi

Nouakchott, Mauritania (CNN) -- Mahjouba was raped in March on the nighttime streets of Mauritania's capital, but she will not bring charges against the man she says did it since she may be the one who ends up in prison. The 25-year-old says the legal advice she received was to not go to court, leaving her to suffer in silence.

There is no law in Mauritania that defines rape.

According to a local U.N.-funded group working with the victims, the law criminalizes the women instead of their rapists -- and society ostracizes the women.

Mahjouba, who asked not to use her real name, said: "I am sure that if I raise my voice I'm going to be criminalized by my society and I will pay the price harshly ... and as a result I may stay single for the rest of my life."

She added: "I consulted a lawyer secretly, and he advised me sincerely not to seek justice because that would throw me in jail. I know what happened to other girls who decided to go to court and face the community. Their lives were destroyed completely forever. So I already know what would happen to me if I had to follow that path.

"This Islamic republic has no place for rape victims like me."

Mauritanian laws are based on Sharia law and the penal code forbids relationships between both sexes outside marriage. That includes a consensual relationship between a boyfriend and girlfriend but can also criminalize a woman who is forced to have sex.

Sidi Athman Ould Sidi Salem, a law specialist and legal adviser to the government, said: "If raped women don't bring strong evidence, which is not easy, they would be accused of Zina -- an Arabic word meaning sex out of marriage -- and end up in jail. It's because the victims of rape are always accused of a Zina which make a lot of problems."

Sidi Athman added: "The rape issue has been one of the many taboos that haven't been investigated (by the government)."

UNFPA, which promotes health and equality issues, is working with local groups and the government to define rape in law and protect its victims.

Thierno Coulibaly, UNFPA assistant representative in Mauritania for its reproductive health program and population and development program, said he was not aware of any rape victim in the capital currently in jail but could not comment on what was happening outside the capital.

Even with legal protection, women victims of rape still face a social stigma that is hard to overcome. He said: "Women are still afraid to complain if they are victims of rape because there is an attitude from the society."

Coulibaly added: "There is no law to define rape but there will be one. And work is being done with police officers and judges ... to let them understand the problem is not the woman, but the perpetrator of the rape."

The U.N.-funded Mauritanian Association for Maternal and Child Health (known by its French acronym AMSME) is at the forefront of trying to change both the law and society.

When a woman reports a rape, police contact AMSME and the woman is taken to the El Wafa center.

Zeinebou Mint Taleb Moussa, a former midwife and president of the organization, set up the El Wafa center in 2001 to provide help for rape victims.

Mint Taleb Moussa said: "There is no mention of the words 'rape,' or 'sexual violence' in the Mauritanian laws which left a growing number of women as victims ... All the words that are related to sex are extremely taboo and can never be mentioned publicly."

Mint Taleb Moussa said there were 308 rape cases registered by her organization in 2008 and 205 in 2009, but she noted that "what has been reported is only the tip of the iceberg."

She said they mainly deal with cases in the capital, Nouakchott, but there remain many unreported rapes in the city and the country.

She said rape victims bring shame to their families and the woman's reputation, and few women have the courage to report the crime and be registered.

Mint Taleb Moussa added: "We focus basically on the capital Nouakchott, but we think of covering the interior regions as well."

Mint Taleb Moussa has tried in vain for a decade to get her message into the national media to assist rape victims.

"I requested having a program in the state mass media -- radio and TV -- but my request was turned down. Recently, the national TV hosted me for the first time on a program, but it was censored without giving any justification ... It's a big problem here to defend rape victims," she said.

AMSME is also working with government and religious leaders in a bid to get a new rape law.

Sidi Ould Beyade, spokesman for the Ministry of Welfare, Children and Family, said the ministry has begun work on the issue to help end the ordeal of rape victims.

"For the first time, the ministry is now in touch with NGO activists, lawyers and opinion makers with the purpose of studying the situation, first, and then trying to act."

[Zeebedee]

Mauritanija je inace Islamska republika, druge vere su zabranjene (njima jelte nista ne treba jer su sve to dobri muslimani) ; serijatski zakon je na snazi i ljudi zive u potpunoj bedi odseceni od sveta.

Naravno nisu gadljivi na nase pare pa su dozvoljene sve vrste humanitarne pomoci. radnici na granici moraju cak i licnu Bibliju da ostave. I evo kako vracaju tu pomoc:

hristopher Ervin (Chris) Leggett, 39, formerly of Cleveland, and a current resident of Nouakchott, Mauritania, Africa, passed away Tuesday, June 23, 2009, in Mauritania.

He and his family were residents of Mauritania for the past seven years where he directed a non-governmental organization with a focus to help the people of Mauritania. One aspect of his work involved working with the prison systems to train and equip women and young boys to re-enter society. He directed a training center providing training in such areas as computer skills, sewing, and literacy. He also oversaw a micro-loan program which fostered growth of small businesses; hundreds of projects were financed which impacted the lives of countless people.

Al-Qaida's North African branch has claimed responsibility for the killing of an American aid worker shot dead this week in Mauritania's capital, Al-Jazeera TV reported Thursday.

The Arab satellite TV station aired an audio statement purportedly issued by al-Qaida of the Islamic Maghreb spokesman Salah Abu Mohammed, who said the group killed 39-year-old Christopher Ervin Leggett on Tuesday because he was allegedly trying to convert Muslims to Christianity.

"Two knights of the Islamic Maghreb succeeded Tuesday morning at 8 a.m. to kill the infidel American Christopher Leggett for his Christianizing activities," the statement said.

The statement's authenticity could not be independently verified.

Mauritania's Interior Ministry said Thursday it was investigating the death and security forces were doing "all they can to catch the criminals."

In neighboring Senegal, U.S. Gen. William "Kip" Ward, head of the U.S. military command responsible for Africa, denounced the attack during a press conference in the capital, Dakar. Ward called Leggett's slaying "deplorable." He said the American response to the terror group's activities was focused on increasing the capacities of partner nations to deal with such threats, in part through military training.

The U.S. ambassador to Senegal, Marcia S. Bernicat, called the killing "regrettable" and said such violence shows al-Qaida's Algeria-based North Africa branch "has been getting stronger."

"It's a very troubling trend," she said. But "they're operating in a very difficult part of the world to manage."

U.S. officials have long expressed concern over the vast, lawless patches of little-policed desert in North Africa which criminals and now some terrorist networks have used as smuggling routes.

[DYNABLASTER]

ne volim ovakve teme, tesko sta mozes postici cak nausprot

ima i u nasem sistemu problema i trebalo bi time vise da se bavimo

[Evgenik]

Да је свијету заиста стало до људских права они би реаговали. Овакве ствари само потврђују да свијетом управљају сатанисти којима је стало само до моћи и личног интереса.

[mikael_pasa]

kako sam razumeo,iza ubistva Irvina stoji Al-Kaida a ne država...sticajem okolnosti poznajem jednog Somalijca koji je baš zbog terora pripadnika ekstremističkih islamskih grupa napustio svoju zemlju,a musliman je...slično je i u Mauritaniji.Islam je u tim zemljama zvanična religija,ali samo delovanje nesrećnog Irvina u toj zemlji je trajalo 7 godina.i tek sad se setila islamska zemlja da ga ubije?onda su meni lično Srbija,i i zvanična politika Srbije,sa sve SPC palili džamiju u Bg...ova moja tvrdnja je,jel tako,stupidna...podjednako kao već navedena koja govori da je islam,eto,takav....

[Zeebedee]

Ubili su ga muslimani u ime vere.

Silovane devojke se zatvaraju u zatvore od strane vlasti a zbog islamske vere, kojima je pravo zena isto kao pravo goveda u klanici.

[mikael_pasa]

Ubili su ga muslimani u ime vere.

Silovane devojke se zatvaraju u zatvore od strane vlasti a zbog islamske vere, kojima je pravo zena isto kao pravo goveda u klanici.

dobro...ako tako kažeš....

[Zeebedee]

Ne kazem ja, procitaj text gore sto sam naveo pa nam reci sta nije tacno.

[mikael_pasa]

Ne kazem ja, procitaj text gore sto sam naveo pa nam reci sta nije tacno.

ništa ja ne kažem o tačnosti ili netačnosti vesti...ali,u svemu tome postoji nešto što ti ili nećeš,ili ne možeš da uklaviriš...al,ajd....

[Zeebedee]

Spreman sam da slusam. Zasto islam dozvoljava ponizavanja zena i zasto nista ne uradi da se ovo spreci.Ovo je bre vise civilizacijsko pitanje.

[mikael_pasa]

Spreman sam da slusam. Zasto islam dozvoljava ponizavanja zena i zasto nista ne uradi da se ovo spreci.Ovo je bre vise civilizacijsko pitanje.

islam ne dozvoljava ponižavanje žena,pod jedan.ako ja učinim neki zločin,da li to znači da mi ga vera dozvoljava?islam samim postojanjem ne dozvoljava nasilje,terorizam ili bilo šta slično tome....ne sudi po verniku,ili po nekome ko se vernikom predstavlja.sudi po veri i po propisima.svaki od tih koji su to učinili,ako ne na ovom,a ono na onom svetu će iskusiti primerenu kaznu.bilo je slučajeva dokazanog silovanja u islamskim zemljama....loše su optuženi prošli,da znaš....ili je i to što su im glave odsečene civilizacijski problem?

[Solomon Kane]

...ili je i to što su im glave odsečene civilizacijski problem?

...то је примарно телесни проблем. algabacaju

[Zeebedee]

Brate ako ne razxumes engelski prevedi uz pomoc progreama ono. prica se34 o tome da je nemoguce dokazati silovanje jer se od zrtve zahteva da i sama pronadje silovatelja. U suprotnom zrtva ide u zatvor.Zena bas nikako nije zasticena islamom, i dok god neke stvari ne prevedete na civilizacijski nivo 21 veka; Islam ce u vecem delu sveta da se posmatra kao religija divljaka i varvara.

[Semberac]

Србија Србима

Мауританија Мауританцима

Европа Европљанима

Русија Русима

Америка ИНДИЈАНЦИМА

Израел ПАЛЕСТИНЦИМА

Курдистан Курдима

Турска Турцима

Само ми Срби дозвољавамо да нам странци кроје наше двориште...

И онда су се муслимани жалили када им је швајцарски народ ВЕЋИНСКИМ гласањем забранио изградњу минарета..., тако је то. Сваки народ нека изграђује себи државу.

[mikael_pasa]

Србија Србима

Мауританија Мауританцима

Европа Европљанима

Русија Русима

Америка ИНДИЈАНЦИМА

Израел ПАЛЕСТИНЦИМА

Курдистан Курдима

Турска Турцима

Само ми Срби дозвољавамо да нам странци кроје наше двориште...

И онда су се муслимани жалили када им је швајцарски народ ВЕЋИНСКИМ гласањем забранио изградњу минарета..., тако је то. Сваки народ нека изграђује себи државу.

a,ko je to u Srbiji stranac?