Адолф Хитлер - заштитник Свете Горе

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U ovoj emisiji monah govori a snimci svedoče da je na zahtev svetogoraca Adolf Hitler postao zaštitnik Svete Gore.
 
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Ovo sam našao an Wikipediji " After the Nazi takeover of Greece, the Epistassia, Athos's four-member executive committee, formally asked Hitler to place the Autonomous Monastic State under his personal protection, and Hitler agreed. Mount Athos survived World War II nearly untouched, and for the remainder of the war, the monks of Mount Athos referred to Adolf Hitler as "High Protector of the Holy Mountain"
 
Zanima me da li se neko ozbiljnije bavio ovom temom i ima li nekih tekstova na ovu temu?
 

 

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Хитлер сачувао Свету Гору

 

Захваљујући мудрости Светогораца и приличној помоћи српских монаха, за време Другог светског рата Немци нису однели ништа од светиња и драгоцености.

- Кад је почео рат, Бугари, као партнери Немаца, добили су у јурисдикцију Свету Гору - прича Душан Миловановић. - Манастир Зограф поставио се на чело Светогораца, ломећи све обичаје и ред који траје две хиљаде година. И, наравно, људи невични управљању, почели су да праве глупости и свима су се попели на главу. Мислим да је онда професор Георгије Острогорски посаветовао Хиландарце да без знања Бугара, с игуманима осталих осамнаест манастира, напишу писмо Хитлеру и траже његову заштиту. И заиста су му написали писмо по угледу на писма византијским царевима у средњем веку. Хитлеров саветник-византолог, у жељи да задржи добре односе с колегама, саветује Хитлера да истог тренутка пошаље пуковника историчара уметности за гувернера Свете Горе. Тај пуковник је тамо био све време трајања рата. За то време ниједан папир није изнет са Свете Горе. Невероватна прича! Чуо сам је од свог професора Дејана Медаковића.

 

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- Кад је почео рат, Бугари, као партнери Немаца, добили су у јурисдикцију Свету Гору

 

Ко ће други...

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Ко ће други...

Занимлјиво ми је што не постоје неки научни радови или било шта написано на ову тему.

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Занимлјиво ми је што не постоје неки научни радови или било шта написано на ову тему.

 

Ни ја нисам наишао ни на шта озбиљније, a нарочито ми је било интересантно то што неки монах са Свете горе у неком документарцу (мислим да сам га видео баш овде, на форуму) прича о томе као о најнормалнијем догађају, а у најмању руку је контроверзно.

 

“Upon our arrival at several monasteries and, upon our departure from one (Dionisiou), when we sailed out onto the sea in our little ship, we were greeted by the swastika flag”.

 

Има овде неких фотографија и копија докумената. Пише и да су Немци штитили Хиландар од партизана који су крали храну.

 

There are stories of partisans who raided Chilandariou, stealing food and mules, but otherwise it was relatively quiet. Only after this incident the Germans soldiers got a M42 machinegun.

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Занимлјиво

 

И мени исто.

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прича о томе као о најнормалнијем догађају, а у најмању руку је контроверзно.

Mislim  da nije kontroverzno, Hrišćani su kroz vekove uvek bili diplomate i snalažnjivi, dobar cilj opravdava njihov postupak.

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Mislim  da nije kontroverzno, Hrišćani su kroz vekove uvek bili diplomate i snalažnjivi, dobar cilj opravdava njihov postupak.

 

Свакако, наш највећи светитељ је био врстан дипломата, али имај у виду да ти то гледаш из мало дубље перспективе. Јавности уопштено податак да је Хитлер био „заштитник“ Свете горе, да су монаси махали нацистичким заставама, качили Хитлеров портрет поред икона итд. звучи у најмању руку чудно. Нарочито када се упореди са житијима раних хришћана који су бивали убијани због одбијања да учествују у идолатрији.

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Свакако, наш највећи светитељ је био врстан дипломата, али имај у виду да ти то гледаш из мало дубље перспективе. Јавности уопштено податак да је Хитлер био „заштитник“ Свете горе, да су монаси махали нацистичким заставама, качили Хитлеров портрет поред икона итд. звучи у најмању руку чудно. Нарочито када се упореди са житијима раних хришћана који су бивали убијани због одбијања да учествују у идолатрији.

Rani Hrišćani su imali svoju istorijsku konotaciju, rani hrišćani se nisu branili, hrišćani koji su imali svoje države su počeli da se brane. 

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1218 – Athos and the Second World War

Posted on April 27, 2011by athosweblog

Athos: Easter 1941

In blog no. 1119 and 1176  I reviewed the book “Wege am Athos” from Reinhold Zwerger.

A chapter about the 2nd World War (page 237 and further) is of special interest, because we can show you some pictures that illustrate this text. I found some pictures in the book of the fellow traveler of mr. Zwerger, Erich Feigl, who collected an enormous amount of historical pictures from Athos in his book “Athos Vorhölle zum Paradies- 1980″. I also found a few photos in the book of Dölger, “Mönchsland Athos 1941″.

Two Germans soldiers in front of Stavronikita – date unknown

First a brief history lesson: Hitler invaded Greece on the 6th of April 1941, after the fiasco of the attempted Italian invasion through Albania. Three days later Thessaloniki and Chalkidiki was under German power. At first there were a few German military on Mt. Athos, but more then the picture I showed you from Easter 1941, I did not find.

The Epistasia, the four-member executive committee appointed annually by the Holy Community, asked Hitler on 13th of April 1941 to place Mount Athos under his personal protection and care, and he seems that he agreed. So, the German conquerors did not interfere with Mount Athos.

A copy of the letter that the Holy Epistatia sent to Hitler – from the Feigl-book

Soon after writing the letter to Hitler, in the summer of 1941, the Holy Mountain was visited by a German scientific expedition led by Dölger, who was treated friendly by the Athos monks.

Diamoniterion of mr Dölger, July 21, 1941

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Diamoniterion of mr Dölger, July 21, 1941

Mr Dölger in Dafni – date unknown

The scientific expedition (with a dog!), three German soldiers and seven monks – date unknown

In his book Dölger says: “Upon our arrival at several monasteries and, upon our departure from one (Dionisiou), when we sailed out onto the sea in our little ship, we were greeted by the swastika flag”.

The scientific group drinking water, coffee and Tsipourou

The photographer in Karyes

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The Tragos (the “Magna Carta” of Athos), opened for Dölger.

Tragos 1941- detail

Tragos – made by Athanasius himself, with a signature of Emperor John Tsimiskes

In June 1943 a group of eight Germans soldiers arrived in Karyes. Totally unprepared, not knowing what to expect and unaware of the existence of 20 Orthodox monasteries, they thought they were dropped in the Middle Ages.

1943: German soldiers seated under a portrait of Hitler – place and date unknown

The group took their residence in the Konaki of Simonos Petras, later the house of the Greek Governor. The eight soldiers carried two pistols and six rifles. They had no radio-contact, only a telephone line, which was out of order lots of times, especially when it rained. Because some of them had to go back to Thessaloniki every now and then – which took four days – , the group mostly existed of one or three men.

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Easter 1944 – April 16th

The Athos monks more of less accepted the presence of the Germans and they knew to keep a low profile, to prevent reprisals. The relation with the Greek border police was reserved.

Father Panteleimon from kellion Ravdouchou near Karyes, showing a picture from a friendship between a German soldier and a monk during the Second World War

The monk and the soldier shaking hands

Zwerger tells about a friendship between a monk and a German soldier. After the war Zwerger met this soldier, mr Hans Nageler (Oberfeldwebel), who was stationed on Athos from June 1943 till May 1944. He became good friends with Father Joachim Sibru, a Rumanian monk, who lived in a kellion near Karyes.

Father Joachim, the Rumanian monk in 1982

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After the war mr Nageler visited Athos a couple of times, starting in 1968.
Mr Nageler 1982

Mr Nageler and Lorbecher as soldiers on Athos – date unknown

During the war was no real threat of fighting or violence. Mr. Nageler was almost caught by partisans while traveling to Thessaloniki, but he was saved, because he told them was not from Germany but from Austria (which was true).

There are stories of partisans who raided Chilandariou, stealing food and mules, but otherwise it was relatively quiet. Only after this incident the Germans soldiers got a M42 machinegun. After the war mr Hans Nageler said that he thankful that “faith†brought him to Mt. Athos. He died on the 9th of January 2004, 100 years old.

Notebook of mr Nageler 1943-1945. Not much happened: in October 1994 evacuation (Absetzbewegung) of Athos (SE part) was already planned!

But there were a few small incidents, that are worth to mention: in the summer of 1943 there was this German pilot who’s plane ran out of gas and he landed with his parachute somewhere in the chesnutt trees above Karyes. He planned that his plane would crash in the sea, but he miscalculated and it crashed on the Greek mainland (“This means court-martial”, was the dry comment of the Lieutenant, when he heard the bad news).

And then there is a story of the Germans trying to find deserters, but they soon realized that Athos-monks all look the same in their black clothes and with their long beards (all attending long services in dark churches……). Soon the search was cancelled.

Portrait of Hitler in Konstamonitou

One of the things the Germans did achieve was a census: it showed out that 5500 monks were living on Mt. Athos at that time. In May 1943 the Germans confiscated some illegal radios in monasteries.  The German marine had a small observation post somewhere above the Skiti Prodromou, overlooking the cape. Soon after the war it was demolished.