Ситуација у Ирану

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Знамо сви да је Иран далеко највероватнија следећа станица НАТО-а. Све спекулације, актуелности, геополитичке анализе и остало везано за ову тему изнесићемо овде, на овој теми.

[Guest Alefshin]

Тамо је баш гужва ових дана...

Ubijen demonstrant na demonstracijama u Teheranu

Najmanje jedna osoba je poginula, a više ih je ranjeno u sukobima između policije i demonstranata na protestu u Teheranu zbog izbornih rezultata , javio je fotograf iranske televizije "Pres TV", prenosi "Skaj Njuz".

Policija napada pristalicu opozicionog kandidata Mirhoseina Musavija

"Ima sporadične pucnjave... Vidim ljude kako trče", rekao je reporter sa lica mesta.

U međuvremenu su iranski korisnici "Tvitera" objavili da je došlo do "pucnjave sa smrtonosnim ishodom" i naglasili da je do najvećeg nasilja došlo na trgu Azadi.

Desetine hiljada ljudi okupilo se u centru prestonice Irana da izrazi protest protiv "prevare" na izborima održanima u petak. Demonstranti su se pojavili uprkos zvaničnoj zabrani održavanja protesta planiranog u znak podrške pretučenom kandidatu opozicije Mirhoseinu Musaviju, koji je pozvao na poništavanje rezultata izbora.

Zvanične brojke pokazuju da je predsednik Mahmud Ahmadinedžad pobedio ubedljivom većinom glasova.

http://www.blic.rs/svet.php?id=97376

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Protester killed, others hurt at Tehran rally

Hundreds of thousands rally against Ahmadinejad, election results

A man shot during an anti-government protest Monday in Tehran is carried to a nearby car.

msnbc.com news services

updated 4:27 p.m. ET June 15, 2009

TEHRAN, Iran - Gunfire from a compound used by pro-government militia killed one demonstrator Monday after hundreds of thousands of opponents of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad massed in central Tehran to cheer their pro-reform leader in his first public appearance since he lost elections that he alleges were marred by fraud.

The outpouring in Azadi, or Freedom, Square for reformist leader Mir Hossein Mousavi followed a decision by Iran's most powerful figure for an investigation into the vote-rigging allegations.

Security forces watched quietly, with shields and batons at their sides.

But a group of demonstrators with fuel canisters set a small fire at a compound of a volunteer militia linked to Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guard as the crowd dispersed from the square.

As some tried to storm the building, people on the roof could be seen firing directly at the demonstrators at the northern edge of the square, away from the heart of the rally.

An Associated Press photographer saw one person fatally shot and several others who appeared to be seriously wounded.

The shooting was followed by reports from residents of three neighborhoods in northern Tehran who said shooting was heard there as well.

'God is great!'

As darkness fell, cries of "Allahu akbar!" — "God is great!" — were heard across central Tehran as people gathered on rooftops for a second straight night. On Sunday night, Ahmadinejad opponents shouted "Death to the dictator!" The protest bore deep historic resonance — it was how the leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini asked Iran to unite against the Western-backed shah 30 years earlier.

The government says Ahmadinejad won re-election with 63 percent of the vote.

The United States was "deeply troubled" by reports of violence and arrests in Iran, State Department spokesman Ian Kelly said, but he added that the U.S. knows too little about the conduct of the election to say for sure whether there was fraud.

Three days of rioting followed the elections, leaving parts of Tehran scarred by flames and shattered storefronts, the worst unrest in Tehran in a decade. Security forces have struck back with targeted arrests of pro-reform activists and blocks on text messaging and pro-Mousavi Web sites used to rally his supporters.

Before the shooting, Mousavi had paused on the edge of Azadi Square to address the crowd, which stretched for five miles.

"I am ready to pay any price to materialize the ideals of you dear people," he said, speaking though a portable loudspeaker. "People feel their wisdom has been insulted. We have to pursue legal channels to regain our trampled rights and stop this last lie, and stand up to fraud and this astonishing charade."

Mousavi, wearing a gray striped shirt, said his solution was "canceling the result of this disputed election."

"This will have the least cost for our nation. Otherwise, nothing will remain of people's trust in the government and ruling system."

The crowd roared back: "Long live Mousavi."

"This is not election. This is selection," read one English-language sign at the demonstration. Other marchers held signs proclaiming "We want our vote!" and raised their fingers in a V-for-victory salute.

"We want our president, not the one who was forced on us," said 28-year-old Sara, who gave only her first name because of fears of reprisals from authorities.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31365097/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/?GT1=43001

[Guest Alefshin]

Разочарање без оспоравања

После иранских избора званична Америка уздржанија него раније у сличним ситуацијама

Опозициони протест на улицама Техерана (Фото АФП)

Од нашег сталног дописника

Вашингтон, 15. јуна – У иранском „мечу” на биралиштима и улицама, званична Америка се показује уздржанијом него у ранијим спољним ситуацијама у којима „види” и сопствени „витални интерес”. Иако су разочарани исходом тамошњег изјашњавања, њени представници се, засад, постављају као „пажљиви посматрачи” а не као „арбитри” за оцењивање регуларности туђе утакмице.

Такав приступ исказан је у наступима портпарола Беле куће Роберта Гибса, шефa дипломатије Хилари Клинтон (као и неименованих функционера у медијским извештајима), а релативни изузетак јуче је направио потпредседник Џозеф Бајден. У интервјуу телевизији Ем-Ес-Ен-Би-Си он је рекао да постоје разлози за сумњу у ирански изборни исход, али да је прерано за коначно закључивање, а да ће приступ Вашингтона остати истрајан у основном – да Иран „одустане од тежње за нуклеарним наоружавањем и да престане да подржава тероризам”.

Ти и други акценти, сугеришу да ће Америка, ако не буде ванредних повода за преиспитивање, наставити курс „за дијалог с Техераном”, ко год да му је на власти, а с циљем да он одустане од наведених „застрањивања”. Администрација Барака Обаме ће се „постављати према ситуацији таква каква је, а не као да је онаква каква бисмо желели да јесте”, пренео је „Њујорк тајмс” изјаву овдашњег „високог званичника”.

Избори у Либану, где је победила „проамеричка коалиција”, подстакли су овде наду да ће, поводом недавне Обамине поруке за усклађивање односа са исламским светом, у Ирану доћи до заокрета ка умеренијем и кооперативнијем руководству, али се то није догодило, што Белој кући „компликује пројектовани курс”, како констатује „Вашингтон пост”. Компликације му увећавају „гласови јастребова”, које лист назире у вођствима овдашњих републиканаца и Израела, да Иран треба изоловати јер „пориче холокауст (нацистички над Јеврејима) и прети уништењем Израела”. Па је од Обаме, тако, један од опозиционих лидера Мит Ромни затражио да иранске изборе јавно окарактерише као „намештене” и да је „очигледно да председникова политика извињавања по свету (за погрешне потезе САД у прошлости) не доноси пожељне резултате”.

Чињеница је, међутим, да су се амерички односи с муслиманским светом осетно погоршали под председниковањем републиканца Џорџа Буша, нарочито после инвазије на Ирак у марту 2003. године, па да власт демократа сада настоји да их поправи „колико год је то могућно”. Ситуација на „проширеном Блиском истоку” у том међувремену се погоршала, уз проширење утицаја Ирана као „главног регионалног противника САД”, а Обама би да тај процес заустави и евентуално убеди Техеран да се „уклопи у правила међународне заједнице”…

Поводом иранских збивања, овде превладавају извештаји о насилном гушењу протеста „због покрадених избора”. Огласили су се, међутим, и представници две америчке организације чије је истраживање међу Иранцима, пре избора, показало да је већина наклоњена Махмуду Ахмадинежаду, који је сада прогласио своју победу.

Тражи се, накнадно, и одговор на питање да ли би тријумф његовог ривала Мир Хусеина Мусавија „ишта битно променио”. Подсећа се, при том, да је он био један од лидера „шиитске револуције” 1979. године и да је такође изјављивао да се Иран неће одрећи нуклеарних амбиција. Али јесте наговештавао „умеренији” приступ у односима са Америком.

Указује се, уједно, да победа на изборима не одлучује о томе ко ће имати одлучујућу реч у Ирану. Главни, у сваком случају, остаје врховни вођа, ајатолах Али Хамнеи…

Стога се у Вашингтону пажња, утисак је, усмерава на две ствари: да опстаје спремност за дијалог с Техераном и да се укаже на значај текућих демонстрација против проглашеног изборног исхода. Није извесно, пак, којим би се начином и темпом, и у каквим све околностима, такве тежње међусобно усклађивале.

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Одлука о жалбама у року од 10 дана

Техеран – Највише законодавно тело Ирана Савет чувара исламске револуције саопштило је јуче да ће донети одлуку о жалбама поражених председничких кандидата у року од 10 дана, а присталице Мирхосеина Мусавија, једног од поражених кандидата, отказале су планиране протесте после одбијања полиције да им изда дозволу.

Представник Савета чувара исламске револуције, органа који треба званично да усвоји изборне резултате, како би они постали правоснажни, изјавио је да су се жалили бивши премијер Мусави и бивши шеф Револуционарне гарде Мохсен Резаи.

М. Пантелић

http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/Razocharanje-bez-osporavanja.sr.html

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/31383439#31378461

Dueling rallies in Iran as partial recount looms

Obama expresses 'deep concerns' over vote; independent media banned

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's Islamic leadership agreed to conduct a limited recount of votes following last week's disputed presidential election, a spokesman said Tuesday, as thousands of people took to Tehran's streets and authorities cracked down on independent media.

The announcement came after Iran's state radio reported that seven people were killed during clashes in the Iranian capital the previous day — the first official confirmation of deaths linked to the wave of protests and street battles following the disputed election in which President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was declared the winner.

In downtown Tehran, thousands of people attended a state-organized rally Tuesday aimed at showing support for the regime. State media said the pro-Ahmadinejad event was designed to demand punishment for "rioters" from clashes on Monday.

Earlier, violence erupted at another rally in central Tehran as plainclothes militia beat pro-reform protesters with sticks. According to eyewitnesses, the militia members circled the demonstrators on motorcycles before striking them. Some of the plainclothes officials chanted "Death to America."

The protesters claim Friday's vote was rigged to re-elect Ahmadinejad, the hard-line president.

The crowd at the anti-government protest swelled to about 100,000 people in about three hours, witnesses said. Banners carried by some at the rally described reformist candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi as "Our True President."

Mousavi, in a message posted on his Web site, asked his supporters to "not fall in the trap of street riots" and to "exercise self-restraint."

After images were shown around the world of mass protests and violence following the disputed election, the government announced a crackdown on journalists Tuesday.

Authorities restricted journalists, including Iranians working for foreign media, from reporting on the streets, and said they could only work from their offices, conducting telephone interviews and monitoring official sources such as state television.

Iranian officials also said they will not extend the visas of foreign reporters who covered the election.

Could this really be another Iranian revolution?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31380861

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Iran’s opposition leader calls for mass protests

Mousavi wants day of mourning on Thursday for those killed in unrest

Iranian supporters of defeated presidential candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi demonstrate Tuesday in Tehran.

TEHRAN, Iran - Defeated pro-reform candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi urged supporters Wednesday to stage protests or gather in mosques on Thursday to mourn those killed after disputed elections that set off Iran's worst unrest since the 1979 Islamic Revolution.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's victory against the Mousavi sparked demonstrations and bloody street battles in Tehran which killed at least seven people on Monday while other protests flared up in cities across Iran.

"A number of our countrymen were wounded or martyred," Mousavi said in a statement posted on his Web site.

"I ask the people to express their solidarity with the families ... by coming together in mosques or taking part in peaceful demonstrations," said Mousavi, adding that he would also take part in the day of mourning planned for Thursday.

Earlier, the country's most powerful military force warned of a crackdown against online media in its first pronouncement on the crisis.

Blogs and Web sites such as Facebook and Twitter have been vital conduits for Iranians to inform the world about protests over Friday's disputed election. Mousavi and his supporters accuse the government of rigging the election to declare Ahmadinejad the winner.

The Web became more essential after the government barred foreign media Tuesday from leaving their offices to report on demonstrations on the streets of Tehran.

The Revolutionary Guard, an elite military force answering to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said through the state news service that Iranian Web sites and bloggers must remove any materials that "create tension" or face legal action.

Powerful institution

The Guards are a separate military with enormous domestic influence and control of Iran's most important defense programs. They are one of the key sources of power for a cleric-led establishment that has been pushed by the crisis into an extraordinary public defense of the Islamic ruling system.

The unelected supreme leader made a highly unusual appeal Tuesday in response to tensions, telling Iranians that all citizens should hold fast to their belief in the system despite disagreements over the election.

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Mousavi joins protesters at huge Tehran rally

Ahmadinejad opponents shout 'death to the dictator' in wake of election

msnbc.com news services

updated 12:12 p.m. ET June 18, 2009

TEHRAN, Iran - Opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi joined tens of thousands of black-clad supporters in the streets of Tehran on Thursday to honor demonstrators killed in clashes over Iran's disputed election.

Many in the massive crowd wore green wristbands, toted green balloons and carried flowers as they filed into Imam Khomenei Square, a large plaza in the heart of the capital named for the founder of the Islamic Revolution, witnesses said. Green is Mousavi's signature campaign color.

Demonstrators marched silently until they arrived at the square, where some chanted "Death to the dictator!" and "Where are our votes!" witnesses said.

Press TV, an English-language version of Iranian state television designed for foreigners, estimated the crowd at hundreds of thousands and said the people listened to a brief address from Mousavi, who called for calm and self-restraint. The crowd size could not be independently verified.

Foreign news organizations have been banned from covering the protests over last Friday's election, which the government declared hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad won by a landslide. Mousavi and his supporters claim the election was rigged and he was the true winner.

The demonstrators included people from all walks of life. Young, trendy girls with their head scarves pushed back on their foreheads joined women in chadors, the traditional cloak worn by Iranian women in public, NBC News reported.

Thursday's protest by opponents of Ahmadinejad openly defied the country's supreme leader, who has urged the people to pursue their allegations of election fraud within the limits of the cleric-led system.

It came a day after tens of thousands marched silently down a main street of the capital, brandishing posters of Mousavi and waving V-for-victory signs, amateur video showed.

Mousavi and his followers have rejected compromise and pressed their demands for a new election, flouting the will of a man endowed with virtually limitless powers under Iran's constitution.

Limited recount

Trying again to satisfy the protesters' demands, Iran's main electoral authority invited Mousavi and two other candidates who ran against Ahmadinejad to a meeting. Iran's al-Alam Arabic television channel said the three candidates would meet with the Guardian Council on Saturday.

The unelected body of 12 clerics and Islamic law experts close to Khamenei has said it was prepared to conduct a limited recount of ballots at sites where candidates claim irregularities.

Mousavi, who has said he won the vote, charges the Guardian Council is not neutral and supports Ahmadinejad and has demanded an independent investigation and a new election.

The council's spokesman, Abbasali Khadkhodaei, said Thursday that it received a total of 646 complaints from the three candidates who ran against Ahmadinejad in the June 12 election.

The council provided few other details, but the large number of complaints raised the possibility that even a limited recount could turn into a far larger and messier exercise than the government desires.

The regime has blocked communication channels, such as Web sites and mobile phone networks, to make it more difficult for Mousavi supporters to organize protests. The mobile phone network in Tehran appeared to go down at the start of Thursday's demonstration, as it has intermittently since shortly after the election results were announced. Text messaging has been blocked almost constantly since Friday.

There have been widespread accusations of nighttime attacks on Mousavi supporters by pro-government militiamen, and protesters attacked a militia building after one rally, but both sides have been restrained, with uniformed police and other security forces standing by as protesters march calmly through the streets.

People in the streets

On Monday, hundreds of thousands turned out in a huge procession that recalled the scale of protests during the 1979 Islamic Revolution. Seven demonstrators were shot and killed that day by pro-regime militia in the first confirmed deaths during the unrest.

The massive gathering was followed by three days of marches along main Tehran avenues, presenting one of the gravest threats to Iran's complex blend of democracy and religious authority since the system emerged out of the Islamic revolution that brought down Western-backed Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.

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pozdrav i podrska bratu Ahmadinedzadu !Ako nadje vremena nek izadje na forum da vidi zive reci podrske !

P..S .  valjda razume srpski ,

[Guest Alefshin]

Иначе, чујем скоро на тв-у да је и Мусави активно учествовао у Хоменијевој исламској револуцији, он је, колико могу да покапирам, либералнији од Ахмединеџада, али је такође исламиста.

[Guest Alefshin]

pozdrav i podrska bratu Ahmadinedzadu !Ako nadje vremena nek izadje na forum da vidi zive reci podrske ! P..S .  valjda razume srpski ,

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Mousavi emerges as political rock star

Veteran insider fights for change but maintains his art-school routine

By ROBERT H. REID

Associated Press Writer

updated 8:32 p.m. ET June 18, 2009

He's gone from colorless insider to political rock star — a graying, bearded veteran of the Islamic regime who now stands at the forefront of a youth-driven movement fighting for change.

Despite his newfound fame, Mir Hossein Mousavi still works out of his old office at the Iranian Art Academy and lives in the same unassuming brick home in a middle-class district of Tehran as before, according to an aide.

Only now, he travels with armed guards provided by the very government he is challenging.

When he appears in public, such as at an opposition rally Thursday in Tehran, crowds surge around his car, chanting his name, according to witnesses in the Iranian capital.

It's unclear what has propelled this calm, deliberate architect and artist — who twice refused to seek the presidency — into a confrontation with the ruling establishment of which he was once a part.

Nor is it clear how Mousavi will respond if the opposition movement transforms from a campaign against alleged fraud in the June 12 election into a major challenge against the core values of the Islamic Republic — that senior clerics have the final say on major issues.

Even during the election campaign, Mousavi was less critical of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad than another challenger, former parliament speaker Mahdi Karroubi, who received only a fraction of the vote.

Wife is the firebrand

Associates say the real firebrand in the Mousavi family is his wife, Zahra Rahnavard, a prominent professor who campaigned by his side.

For years, he remained out of the political limelight, painting pictures — mostly with religious themes — and designing buildings, including two universities, a mosque, a museum and a shopping center.

Nevertheless, a 67-year-old figure nearly devoid of personal charisma has become the champion of a generation inspired by the hope of change, organizing protests with technologies such as mobile phones and Internet that didn't exist when their parents overthrew the U.S.-backed shah in 1979.

In his new role, Mousavi has displayed a common touch — something Ahmadinejad has also sought to portray in an effort to identify with millions of impoverished Iranians.

On Thursday, crowds cheered as Mousavi, dressed in a black coat and trousers, climbed on top of his SUV, addressing his followers through a loudspeaker rather than mounting a stage.

Maintains old routine

Although a number of his followers have been arrested, aides insist Mousavi himself has maintained his old routine, even as his challenge to the powerful clerical establishment is growing.

"Mousavi goes to his regular job as the head of Iran's Art Academy and lives with his family in the same place he lived before the election," said Qorban Behzadian Nejad, head of his campaign headquarters.

"At the same time he pursues his activities for nullification of the election."

Much of Mousavi's appeal among Iranians eager for change probably stems simply from the fact that he is not Ahmadinejad, a hard-liner who has failed to deliver on economic promises and who seems to relish provocative statements — from calling protesters "dust" to denying the Holocaust — that stir controversy at home and abroad.

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Mousavi warned to cancel ‘illegal gatherings’

Iran opposition leader is told he will be 'held responsible' as rally looms

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's opposition leader received another stern warning Saturday not to encourage his supporters to take to the streets a day after the country's top leader sought to end the deepening election crisis by effectively declaring President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the winner.

Supporters of opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi have planned a massive rally in Tehran later Saturday, but it was unclear if he would attend and how large the rally would be after Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei ordered opposition leaders on Friday to end street protests or be held responsible for any "bloodshed and chaos" to come.

Iran's Interior Ministry reiterated the warning to Mousavi on Saturday, saying he would "be held responsible for the consequences of any illegal gatherings." The ministry also accused the 67-year-old former prime minister of supporting protests that "have lead to the disruption of security and public order," State Security Council secretary, Abbas Mohtaj, said in a statement on the ministry's Web site.

The warnings place Mousavi at a pivotal moment. He can either back down or risk a crushing response from police and the forces at Khamenei's disposal — the powerful Revolutionary Guard and their volunteer citizen militia, the basij.

There also are questions about Mousavi's ability to control his own followers, many who are waiting for a clear response to Khamenei's edict on Friday before Saturday's planned rally.

Mousavi, who accuses the government of widespread voter fraud in the June 12 election, and the two other candidates who ran against Ahmadinejad were to meet with Iran's Guardian Council on Saturday. The council, an unelected body of 12 clerics and Islamic law experts close to Khamenei, investigates voter fraud claims.

The council has said it was prepared to conduct a limited recount of ballots at sites where candidates claim irregularities. It not clear, however, if they have initiated any investigations.

'Death to the dictator!'

It also was unclear if the planned rally on Saturday would take place, and if so, how many people would attend. Hundreds of thousands of Mousavi supporters have flooded Tehran streets during several massive marches earlier this week that recall the scale of protests during the 1979 Islamic Revolution.

In a first sign of possible resistance to Khamenei's orders came shortly after nightfall in Tehran Friday. Cries of "Death to the dictator!" and "Allahu akbar" — "God is great" — rang from rooftops in what's become a nightly ritual of opposition unity.

Since the June 12 election, Mousavi has become the figurehead for a broad collection of demonstrators — from the most liberal-leaning reformists to religious conservatives. Some could be prepared to take their protests to the limit, but many others have no interest in an all-out mutiny against the country's Islamic system.

Khamenei was blunt Friday about what a wider fight would bring — warning those who "want to ignore the law or break the law" will face the consequences.

Police clashed with protesters in running battles around Tehran immediately after the election and the basij militia had a reported role in attacks at the university. Gunfire from a basij compound in Tehran also left at least seven people dead Monday.

But the full force of the police and Revolutionary Guard has remained in check. And this was Khamenei's implicit message since the Guard and the vast volunteer militia force it controls is under direct command of the ruling clerics.

A spokesman for Mousavi said Friday the opposition leader was not under arrest but was not allowed to speak to journalists or stand at a microphone at rallies. Iranian filmmaker Mohsen Makhmalbaf told the AP from Paris it's even becoming difficult to reach people close to Mousavi. He said he has not heard from Mousavi's camp since Khamenei's address.

Iranian authorities have placed strict limits on the ability of foreign media to cover recent events, banning reporting from the street and allowing only phone interviews and information from officials sources such as state TV.

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and other European Union leaders expressed dismay over the threat of a crackdown.

Both houses of the U.S. Congress approved a resolution condemning "the ongoing violence" by the Iranian government and its suppression of the Internet and cell phones.

In an interview taped Friday with CBS, Obama said he is very concerned by the "tenor and tone" of Khamenei's comments. He also said that how Iran's leaders "approach and deal with people who are, through peaceful means, trying to be heard" will signal "what Iran is and is not."

The crowds in Tehran and elsewhere have been able to organize despite a government clampdown on the Internet and cell phones. The government has blocked certain Web sites, such as BBC Farsi, Facebook, Twitter and several pro-Mousavi sites that are conduits for Iranians to tell the world about protests and violence.

Text messaging has not been working in Iran since last week, and cell phone service in Tehran is frequently down.