pokajnik83 Написано Март 23, 2010 Пријави Подели Написано Март 23, 2010 Некоме је легенда, некоме највећи злочинац по српски народ... Шта је по Вашем мишљењу Јосип Броз, Јосиф Амброз или како се већ звао један од најутицајнијих политичара 20. века?! И данас, кад дође до последњег боја, Неозарен старог ореола сјајем, Ја ћу дати живот, отаџбино моја, Знајући шта дајем и зашто га дајем. Link to comment Подели на овим сајтовима More sharing options...
Гости Guest nikolastojanoviccuprija Написано Март 23, 2010 Гости Пријави Подели Написано Март 23, 2010 Smeker svetskog ranga ! Taj covek nije bio najidealniji za Srbiju i srbe ali je mozda za nas vise uradio i od mnogih srba ! Tito je nekako uspeo da sjedini razbucano kraljevstvo Karadjordjevica i da obezbedi kakav takav napredak ! Uspeo je da vesto igra izmedju istoka i zapada mada su mu i okolnosti isle na ruku ali je ipak znao da ih iskoristi ! Uredio je zaista pravnu i socijalnu drzavu u kojoj su skoro svi imali bar priblizno isti prava ! Drzava u kojoj su SVESTENICI imali placeno penziono i zdravstveno osiguranje za sebe i svoje porodice a danas ima svestenika koji ne mogu za bolesnu decu da izvade zdravstvenu knjizicu !!!!!???? Link to comment Подели на овим сајтовима More sharing options...
Дејан Написано Март 23, 2010 Пријави Подели Написано Март 23, 2010 To je onaj čika što ga je spasio Reks 0104_cheesy Link to comment Подели на овим сајтовима More sharing options...
pokajnik83 Написано Март 23, 2010 Аутор Пријави Подели Написано Март 23, 2010 Josua Ambroz Tito aka 'Josip Broz' Read Carefully!! Josua Ambroz Tito (pseudonym: 'Josip Broz'); Wien, May 7, 1891 - Ljubljana, May 4, 1980, father Samuel Mayer and mother Marija Javeršek. Secretary of Yugoslav Communist Party before WW2, military leader of Yugoslav communist guerrilla in World War 2, permanent president of post-war Yugoslavia 1945-1980, dictator massacring 1,100000 victims in Yugoslavia. Next is Tito's first real wiki-biography; all his presentations in Wikipedia are idealized-embellished and partly falsified by Yugoslav nostalgic idolaters and liberal-leftist wikipedians. True Josip Broz and communist-president J.A. Tito were two different half-brothers of same mother (Marija Javeršek) and two physical fathers: Franjo Broz, and Samuel Mayer. True Josip Broz The true Josip Broz was really born on May 21, 1892 in Kumrovec village of Zagorje county, northwestern Croatia, as seventh child of Marija Javeršek caming from Slovenian village Podsreda. His real Croatian father was Franjo Broz, a villager in Kumrovec being a hard alcoholic, and so from his 14 ill-treated children a half died in youth. Josip Broz was a lower boy with narrow ascetic face and modest intellectual capability; therefore he cannot complete his basic school in Kumrovec, and left second class in 1905. Then from 1907-1913 he became the assistant of a locksmith in Sisak town, central Croatia. From Sisak descended the important testimony of his late co-worker N. Ivšic on his essential distinction from Yugoslav J.A. Tito; because of that taboo of Tito's identity, Ivšic was then in communist Yugoslavia persecuted and tortured. This important detail is that a locksmith machine by working incident amputed a digit of true J. Broz that then had 4 right digits only (in that time before a century any medical re-implantation was impossible). However, J.A. Tito then had complete right hand with 5 digits, playing well on piano. Then J. Broz was shortly a worker in Slovenia and in Bohemia, and from autumn 1913 because of coming WW1, he was taken in Austrian army. Then in 1914 he was sent in eastern front against Russia, and justly on Easter 1914, he perished on Caucasus being killed by the attack of a Circassian troop. Thus here in Caucasus finished the personal biography of the real Josip Broz from Croatian Kumrovec, and all subsequent events on his name are falsification. However, Soviet Kominterna later decided for far-sighted political purposes, to transfer his dead identity on his half-brother and underground communist Josua Ambroz Mayer then renamed in 'Josip Broz Tito', whose parallel biography follows here. Youth of Josua Ambroz Mayer Josua Ambroz Mayer was born in Austrian capital Vienna on May 7, 1891. His true physical father was Samuel Mayer, a rich Polish Jew and owner of the Viennese factory of medical prosthetics. Marija Javeršek then was his Slovene servant, and that correlation resulted by the birth of their son Josua Ambroz. In difference of his handicapped half-brother (Josip Broz), Josua Ambroz was healthy, robust, well educated and much more intelligent. Due to his ancestry, J.A. Mayer grew in imperial Vienna and received there the best basic education in Wiener-deutsch, and then he finished also musical school as an excellent piano player and the best interpreter of Verdi and Chopin in his class. Then he continued his military education, and he went in the Austrian imperial Military Academia in Pecs (Hungary), being there in the same class with the future Führer of German Third Reich i.e. with young Adolf Hitler, his future military antagonist in WW2. This coincidence then was very important for Tito's military experience as follows: - 1. He was a well educated Jewish officer and not a rural Croatian locksmith as then presented. - 2. In Pecs he became directly familiar with Hitler's strategic thinking, and then he used that abundantly to preview and neutralize Hitler's attacks in Yugoslavia. - 3. On the other hand, Hitler alone was not aware of Tito's capability, due to tabooed change of his identity by Kominterna decisions (and also the massacred Croats in post-war Yugoslavia up to 1990ies were not aware of another non-Croat identity of Tito). Tito's communist career Yet in his youth, Tito became communist before WW1. In 1912, he won in Budapest a silver medal as vice-champion in sword-play. Then from 1914 he was sent with Austrian army in Eastern front and in March 1915 in Bukovina he was enslaved by Russians. After a year imprisoned, then working on Urals in 1917 he adhered to Russian Bolsheviks, and then in Siberia (Omsk) he entered in Red Army and in Communist Party 1918. There he also married Pelagija Belousova, and with her in 1920 he returned to Yugoslavia where he immediately entered in Yugoslav Communist Party being third one in parliament. In 1921 this party was forbidden by Yugoslav king, and then as an illegal underground communist, he worked as machinist in Bjelovar, Kraljevica, etc. In 1934 he entered in Central Committee of Yugoslav Communists, and in 1935 went anew in Russia being active in Kominterna. Stalin sent him 1937 as a secret agent Comrade Walter, in Yugoslavia to control and reform Yugoslav Communists. After some intrigues, the former main secretary of Yu. communists (Milan Gorkic) disappeared being probably killed in Russia, and then Stalin installed Tito as the main secretary of Yu. communists. Tito as Yugoslav leader Now follows shortly his career in WW2 and post-war Yugoslavia to his death. - July 4, 1941 Tito called Yugoslavia for armed resistance against Nazi Germany. - 1941-1945 he was the Chief Commander (Marshall) of National Liberation Army in Yugoslavia. - 1945-1953 he leaded communist Yugoslavia as Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs. - From 1948 followed his rift from Stalin's control (INFORMBIRO) and political neutrality. - 1953-1980 he is the the lifelong President of Yugoslavia. - From 1961 he is co-founder of Non-Aligned Movement, together with Egypt's leader G.A. Nasser, and India's leader J. Nehru As a Viennese Jew, Tito never learned a consistent Croatian speaking: In his numerous sermons across Yugoslavia, he mostly spoke in his original Inter-Slavic mixture of Polish, Slovene and Russian with few added Serbian words i.e. a hybrid language similar to modern artificial Slovio. When after WW2 he arrived in 'native' Kumrovec, many his neighbors and age-mates cannot recognize him (but mostly left tacit before his reprisals). Death and consequences Tito died in Clinic center of Ljubljana on May 4, 1980, from a gangrene in legs. In his last days of agony, Tito spoke mostly in Wiener-deutsch of his youth, and not in his usual Inter-Slavic as former president. Tito is buried in his mausoleum in Belgrade named ''The House of Flowers''. At time of his death, he was the most powerful Jewish ruler in World; thus nearly all important states were obliged to assist on his funeral, that accompanied about 120 different rulers. Therefore also now, his young life and his post-war massacres on civilians became an untouchable taboo eliminated from his adoring bibliographies. Even now after Yugoslavian bloody disaster, his numerous monuments persisted across ex-Yugoslavia (except in Serbia). He was even glorified in new Croatia by recent ruling liberal-leftists (ex-communists), as the biggest (false) Croat of entire regional history - despite the fact that he was the biggest eliminator leading the massacres of 700,000 Croats (mostly civilians). In entire Yugoslavia 1944-1980, he was responsible for massacring about 1,100000 victims, and therefore he is the 9th one among the major mass-murderers in the known World history. In general, his role and effects in Balkans were very similar as these of J.V. Stalin in USSR and Russia. Therefore it was quite logical and expectable that after his death, Yugoslavia exploded in a very bloody regional war. For this biography were used only selected verifiable indications from internet, combined and completed by other complementary documentation. Except some national megalomania, the most realistic published biography of J.B. Tito is this one by M. Todorovic: Hohštapler (Tito bonvivant, 2nd edition, 368 p. Dunja doo. Bjelovar 2005), being mostly congruent with other independent testimonies and documentation. И данас, кад дође до последњег боја, Неозарен старог ореола сјајем, Ја ћу дати живот, отаџбино моја, Знајући шта дајем и зашто га дајем. Link to comment Подели на овим сајтовима More sharing options...
konstantin Написано Март 23, 2010 Пријави Подели Написано Март 23, 2010 Nikola je verovatno mislio da kaze da je walter uradio vise na unistenju Srba od bilo kojeg drugog Srbina prodanovica.Lepo je on to kraljevstvo zamislio,u Srpskoj Crnoj Gori stvorio jos jednu vestacku naciju,osim zvanicne jugoslovenske, dao siptarima autonomiju,pojedinim ustaskim jedinicama nije branio prelazak medj partizane,Srpski nacionalizam je uvek gusen ,za razliku od hrvatskog fasizama.A blantavim Srbima je podmetnuo i laz zvanu srpsko-'rvatski jezik, zato danas svaki opanak ima svoju drzavu i svoj jezik. Bas je velika stvar to penziano osiguranje pogotovo za one koji su pozvani na odricanje radi Hrista.Puno je uradio za njih, to im dodje kao neka nagrada sto se nisu glasnije borili protiv satanizacije i unistavanja pravoslavnog naroda.Samo em zanima kako su oni ljudi pre zdrastvenog osiguranja uspeli da zive 0102_laugh Al slaze se sa nikolom da je bio svetskog nivoa, al ne smeker vec mason-marioneta Ne ponovio se vise nikad,ni njegovo carstvo!! 8086.gif Link to comment Подели на овим сајтовима More sharing options...
Зорица екс Милева Написано Март 23, 2010 Пријави Подели Написано Март 23, 2010 Ne ponovio se vise nikad,ni njegovo carstvo!! 0102_laugh 8086.gif klapklap klapklap Погледа Отац с Небеса и виде ме сва у ранама од неправде људске, и рече, не свети се.Коме да се светим Господе? Поворци стада, што иде на заклање? Свети ли се лекар болесницима, што га са самртничке постеље руже? Коме да се светим? Снегу, што копни и трави што се суши? Link to comment Подели на овим сајтовима More sharing options...
konstantin Написано Март 23, 2010 Пријави Подели Написано Март 23, 2010 Ne ponovio se vise nikad,ni njegovo carstvo!! klapklap klapklap klapklap klapklap 8086.gif klapklap 0102_laugh Link to comment Подели на овим сајтовима More sharing options...
Гости Guest nikolastojanoviccuprija Написано Март 23, 2010 Гости Пријави Подели Написано Март 23, 2010 Ali su Srbi pre avnoja jos za vreme Kraljevine priznali spajanje dve banovine u banovinu Hrvatsku i time prakticno legitimisali potonje granice ! Ne mozemo svu nesrecu svaliti na breme jednog coveka to jeste najlakse ali nije najmudrije Link to comment Подели на овим сајтовима More sharing options...
мирођија Написано Март 23, 2010 Пријави Подели Написано Март 23, 2010 Ali su Srbi pre avnoja jos za vreme Kraljevine priznali spajanje dve banovine u banovinu Hrvatsku i time prakticno legitimisali potonje granice ! Ne mozemo svu nesrecu svaliti na breme jednog coveka to jeste najlakse ali nije najmudrije Па добро свалићемо на њега,његовог ратног друга Павелића,друга Кардеља,друга Стаљина, друга Енвера Хоџу, и потоње другове, да поделмо кривицу. Спајање бановина је смешно према улози мистериозног неспомињаника. Link to comment Подели на овим сајтовима More sharing options...
konstantin Написано Март 23, 2010 Пријави Подели Написано Март 23, 2010 pa nije bas tako, dubrovnik i istra nisu bili u banovini 'rvatske...sto ce reci da su granice stalno pomerane na stetu Srba. Link to comment Подели на овим сајтовима More sharing options...
Зорица екс Милева Написано Март 23, 2010 Пријави Подели Написано Март 23, 2010 Ali su Srbi pre avnoja jos za vreme Kraljevine priznali spajanje dve banovine u banovinu Hrvatsku i time prakticno legitimisali potonje granice ! Ne mozemo svu nesrecu svaliti na breme jednog coveka to jeste najlakse ali nije najmudrije Па добро свалићемо на њега,његовог ратног друга Павелића,друга Кардеља,друга Стаљина, друга Енвера Хоџу, и потоње другове, да поделмо кривицу. Свака ти је златна Мирођијо! 0102_laugh Погледа Отац с Небеса и виде ме сва у ранама од неправде људске, и рече, не свети се.Коме да се светим Господе? Поворци стада, што иде на заклање? Свети ли се лекар болесницима, што га са самртничке постеље руже? Коме да се светим? Снегу, што копни и трави што се суши? Link to comment Подели на овим сајтовима More sharing options...
Гости Guest nikolastojanoviccuprija Написано Март 23, 2010 Гости Пријави Подели Написано Март 23, 2010 Ali su Srbi pre avnoja jos za vreme Kraljevine priznali spajanje dve banovine u banovinu Hrvatsku i time prakticno legitimisali potonje granice ! Ne mozemo svu nesrecu svaliti na breme jednog coveka to jeste najlakse ali nije najmudrije Па добро свалићемо на њега,његовог ратног друга Павелића,друга Кардеља,друга Стаљина, друга Енвера Хоџу, и потоње другове, да поделмо кривицу. Спајање бановина је смешно према улози мистериозног неспомињаника. Ovo je u krajnju ruku smesno ispade da smo mi Srbi igrali kolo dok su ovi pravili balkansku politiku !!! Ljudi ako hocemo ista da napravimo u buducnosti onda moramo da budemo makar realni prema proslosti ,niti da nekog idealizujemo niti da ga blatimo previse ! Kraljevina Jugoslavija je bila zaista trula i tesko bolesna drzava zato je i krah bio kakav je usledio a njena naslednica SFRJ je pokusala da resi bar neke lose stvari iz Kraljevine i u nekim aspektima je bila uspesna ! Nazalost glavni problemi su ostali jos su i zabibereni tragedijom iz WW II i opet neslavan kraj !!! Link to comment Подели на овим сајтовима More sharing options...
Гости Guest nikolastojanoviccuprija Написано Март 23, 2010 Гости Пријави Подели Написано Март 23, 2010 pa nije bas tako, dubrovnik i istra nisu bili u banovini 'rvatske...sto ce reci da su granice stalno pomerane na stetu Srba.Ma Istrra i Dubrovnik sto se mene tice mogu i na mesecu da budu ali je zalosno sto smo Krajinu jos tada metnuli pod vlast Zagreba Link to comment Подели на овим сајтовима More sharing options...
мирођија Написано Март 23, 2010 Пријави Подели Написано Март 23, 2010 pa nije bas tako, dubrovnik i istra nisu bili u banovini 'rvatske...sto ce reci da su granice stalno pomerane na stetu Srba.Ma Istrra i Dubrovnik sto se mene tice mogu i na mesecu da budu ali je zalosno sto smo Krajinu jos tada metnuli pod vlast Zagreba Бановина Хрватска је била пре Јасеновца, Козаре итд... Било је то једно друго време, када се спремало мирно раздруживање Југославије на Словенију, Хрватску( којој би припала данашња Хрватска и део Херцеговине) и Србију( којој би припао део Босне, Македонија и Црна Гора). То је била ок идеја, али су Хрватски злочини у рату све то изменили, а они никада нису били кажњени од стране Броза. Link to comment Подели на овим сајтовима More sharing options...
Зосима Написано Март 23, 2010 Пријави Подели Написано Март 23, 2010 То је била ок идеја, али су Хрватски злочини у рату све то изменили, а они никада нису били кажњени од стране Броза.Јел си чула за Блајбург ? "Све оно што ми можемо да одлучимо јесте шта да урадимо са временом које нам је дато" Гандалф Link to comment Подели на овим сајтовима More sharing options...
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