draganzzz Написано Јануар 28, 2013 Пријави Подели Написано Јануар 28, 2013 From Catholic to Orthodox ThomNickels Philadelphia-based author/journalist GET UPDATES FROM Thom Nickels Posted: 01/27/2013 3:38 pm The word 'orthodoxy' can conjure up foul associations. There's Bertrand Russell's famous quote, "Orthodoxy is the grave of intelligence," which covers any sort of rigid or right thinking at the expense of creative thought. Orthodoxy (lower case) implies a strict adherence to traditionagainst which Modernism doesn't stand a chance. In Judaism, Orthodoxy isseen as that religion's supreme, most traditional expression, itsun-reformed essence. In Christianity, Orthodoxy which has never had aSecond Vatican Council or anything approaching a Novus Ordo -- DivineLiturgy with lay ministers and Protestant-style hymns -- is a windowinto the ancient Church. In fact, you could search the world for amodern young Orthodox priest with a guitar and a penchant for humming"On Eagles Wings," but chances are you wouldn't find one. Priests likethat never get a chance to bloom in Orthodoxy; or, if one was discoveredin seminary, he'd be sent packing or be told to switch hit to the localCatholic Franciscans. In the Orthodox Church there are no activist organizations of laywomen clamoring to be priests (although Metropolitan Kallistos Wareadmits that at some point in time the Church may have to consider thequestion). To date Orthodox women, however feminist their inclinations,haven't splintered off and gotten themselves "ordained" by renegadebishops. There are no Orthodox lay liturgists trying to reinvent or modernizethe Divine Liturgy, either. In the eyes of the world, OrthodoxChristianity has always been relegated to second tier status, taking aback seat to Catholicism's power, even in this era of clergy sex abuse.As a box to be checked on applications and questionnaires, wherereligious affiliation means Protestant, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, orother , Orthodoxy barely exists at all. My first glimpse of Orthodoxy was at the 1964-1965 New York WorldsFair. I'd gone to the Fair with my family primarily to visit the VaticanPavilion, a modernist white building that had a futuristic look andthat effectively mirrored the reformatting of Catholicism taking placein Rome at the Second Vatican Council. Inside the Pavilion wasMichelangelo's treasure, The Pieta, a major Fair exhibit that attractedpeople of all faiths. Inside the Pavilion there was also the modernistChapel of the Good Shepard with its minimalist altar table, glassstained windows but not much else. The chapel's over-wrought simplicity made an impression on me. Notonly did this new Catholic structure have a decidedly Presbyterianstyle, all the signature Catholic elements were missing except acrucifix. The intent seemed to be the creation of an interdenominationalchapel where everybody would be made to feel at home. This was aCatholic chapel that didn't want to offend Protestants by looking "tooCatholic." At the time, I sensed that the chapel design hinted at coming changesin Catholic Church architecture. I was right. Most visitors, distractedby the media hoopla surrounding The Pieta (the Vatican Pavilion was thesecond most popular exhibit at the Fair, attracting some 27,020,857guests) probably didn't dwell on this fact that much. My sense is thatmany Catholics then excused minimalist, Protestant looking churchinteriors if there was enough stained glass to take the mind off whathad been eliminated. Not far from the Pavilion was a small log cabin church with athree-bar cross on top. I knew the cross to be Russian Orthodox. Thechapel was a replica of the first Orthodox chapel in America built inthe 1800s at Fort Hood, California. While the rustic exterior put one inmind of Lincoln Logs or Lewis and Clark expeditions, the interior -- wehad to peer through the windows because the chapel was locked --revealed something startling: a small chandelier illuminating a colorfuliconostasis in the center of which were circles of electric candles anda replica of the framed (miraculous) icon of Our Lady of Kazan. The beauty of that small log cabin church far surpassed anything inthe great white Pavilion monolith with its cold and empty Chapel of theGood Shepard. It was then that I asked myself: What is this thing called Orthodoxy?Growing up, I was taught by the nuns that only Catholics had the truesacrament, the actual Body and Blood of Christ or the Real Presence;Catholics were the only ones with saints, the Mass, priests, andchurches that looked like real holy places. Orthodoxy, I found, also had the Mass (the Divine Liturgy), canonizedsaints, monks, nuns, priests, vestments, miters -- everything in factthat Catholicism had, even miracle stories, bleeding and myrrh streamingimages, as well as visions of the Virgin Mary. This was confusing stuff for a committed, 12-year-old Catholic. Ifthere is only one true Church, why would the Virgin Mary make allegedappearances over the dome of a Coptic Orthodox church in Zeitoun, Egyptin front of hundreds of thousands of people? These series ofapparitions, lasting from 1968 to 1971, spontaneously healed many peoplewho witnessed the lady in light move around the dome of the church. Whywould the bodies of some Orthodox saints remain incorrupt in the samemanner as Saint Catherine Laboure's body in Paris? For every Catholicsaint or miracle story there is an Orthodox counterpart. Is the Orthodox Church the true "other" lung of the whole Church, andnot the schismatic renegades they're made out to be by some Catholictraditionalists? In the eyes of God, where the divide and conquer natureof human politics does not exist -- to the chagrin of strictdoctrinaire prelates, both East and West, steeped in charges of heresyor schism - are both Churches already really one and united "under theskin" despite the lack of an official agreement? As the abbot of St. Tikhon's monastery near Scranton told me last year: "It was the Western, or Catholic Church, that began changing everything." These changes not only included the Flioque clause in the NiceneCreed but the way Christians crossed themselves. The original method ofcrossing oneself was the Orthodox way, right to left, but Rome changedit from left to right in the 8th century. A change like this seems a small thing but it can also be indicativeof something deeper, like a tendency to re-invent and denude untilcenturies later you get something like the Second Vatican Council, wherethe changes were so drastic that if a Catholic from 1947 could comeback he wouldn't even recognize today's Catholic Mass as being Catholic. When former Byzantine Catholic Hieromonk and theologian Fr. GabrielBunge converted to the Orthodox Church, it generated a lot of press.(Conversions work both ways and can be a lot like musical chairs: In2009, Orthodox theologian and writer John Mack converted to EasternCatholicism although shortly after this he divorced his wife and leftthe priesthood). On his conversion to Orthodoxy, Fr. Bunge said: "...Many people thought that the two Churches were moving towardseach other and would eventually meet at one point. But as I was growingolder and learning some things deeper, I stopped believing in thepossibility of the reconciliation of two Churches in terms of the divineservices and institutional unity. What was I to do? I could only go onsearching for this unity on my own, individually, restoring it in oneseparate soul, mine. I could not do more. I just followed my conscience,and came to Orthodoxy." I see the wisdom in this statement, especially since my conversion toOrthodoxy on April 8th of last year. Prior to my first communion at anOrthodox parish in Northern Liberties, I had many conversations withmembers of the congregation in which more than several freely admittedthat they often attend Catholic churches when they are away on vacationand when they cannot find an Orthodox church. Not only do they attend Catholic churches but they receive communionin these churches, a fact which may be frowned upon by their pastor orbishop but a fact nevertheless. The Orthodox people I spoke with feltthey could relate to Catholics because Catholics believe in the RealPresence. "It's all about the Eucharist," as one Orthodox lady told me. "This is why I come to church, to receive the Eucharist. The Eucharist is not a symbol or a memorial, it is real." Comments like these bypass the usual East-West schism rhetoric havingto do with the Filioque, or questions related to the primacy of theBishop of Rome. It's not that many or most Orthodox don't think thatthese questions are important; many do. But for the ordinary people inthe pews, i.e. people who are not theologians, priests or monks, it isthe Eucharist that stands out as the centerpiece of spiritual life. Soyes, a certain strange unity of the heart between the two churches hasalready taken place. I came to Orthodoxy from Catholicism partially because of itsunchanged liturgy; because the Orthodox Church, in its wisdom, neverembarked on a path of liturgical self-destruction. It was not enough forme to attend the Traditional Catholic Latin Mass once a month when thebulk of the Catholic Church remains in the Novus Ordo camp. Even whileattending the TLM at beautiful Saint Paul's church in SouthPhiladelphia, one could not escape the reality that this Mass was aminority Mass, primarily a footnote to the Novus Ordo. It pained me to realize that the TLM was seen more as a specializedevent and not part of the regular lists of masses in most Catholicchurches. In the Orthodox Church there is always the traditional liturgy; therubrics never wax or wane depending on the latest liturgical fashion.There's no need for committees to advertise or promotetradition.Tradition is already there, and it's not going anywhere. Itis, as they say, the Church. Since becoming Orthodox, gone are the endless personal narrativesthat would run in my head whenever I'd attend either a TLM or the NovusOrdo. Those narratives concentrated on what had been lost or thrownaway. In the Orthodox Church, tradition is not shuffled in and shuffled out, like a road show trekking onto Buffalo. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thom-nickels/from-catholic-to-orthodox_b_2529459.html?ref=topbar Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’' Matthew 4:10 Link to comment Подели на овим сајтовима More sharing options...
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