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Не ,ови није наслов нове епизоде игра престола, већ алудирам на то,да би нас ови мамлази опет отерали у суманути рат...

По јавним и државним преузећима у Бгд-у,потписују се ратни распореди, постављају се сирене за узбуњивање и ако томе додамо потенцирање наоружавања ,наруџбине из русије-белорусије , саблсани возови на путу за косово, босански лонац , све то не мирише на добро...:(

Ко би иоле при здравој памети кренуо у нове крваве балканске ратове ?staniiiiiii

 

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пре 3 минута, Зосима рече

Ко би иоле при здравој памети кренуо у нове крваве балканске ратове ?staniiiiiii

Niko vala više nije raspoložen da ratuje. Pre ćemo svi pobeći iz ove rupe nego ratovati. 

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Управо сада, Зосима рече

По јавним и државним преузећима у Бгд-у,потписују се ратни распореди, постављају се сирене за узбуњивање

wth?! :unbelieveble:

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С ким бре да ратујемо?

И ко да ратује, ови што су служили у цивилству?

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пре 1 минут, Nikola Stojanov рече

JOS NAS IMA KOJI SMEMO ZA SRBIJU DA POGINEMO !!! Naravno da niko rat ne zeli ali kad se mora onda otadzini mora da se odazove i da se pomogne !! Srpsko nacionalno pitanje na Balkanu nije reseno cak je jos vise zakomplikovano nakon potonjih ratova i mesanja nato-a u balkanska pitanja ! Srpski narod je duhovno,ekonomski,demografski i kuturno osakacen prakticno unisten i doveden u status polu kolonijalnog naroda a takva perspektiva nasim pokolenjenima ne daje zdravu sansu za opstanak osim ako mi tu nesto ne promenimo ! Srbima treba sto pre neka jaka politicka,diplomatska ili u krajnjem slucaju vojna pobeda da opet malo dodjemo do nacionalnog daha i da nas narod stvori realnije uslove za opstanak na nasoj vekovnoj zemlji !

Da, da trla baba lan...

A kad prva puska pukne svi junaci nikom ponikose. Za koga da se ratuje i za koje teritorije majke ti? Za kosovo da ratujemo? Sto da nece mozda Kosovari da se vrate da zive dole? Ili Krajisnici u Krajinu? smesne price

 

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пре 34 минута, Зосима рече

Не ,ови није наслов нове епизоде игра престола, већ алудирам на то,да би нас ови мамлази опет отерали у суманути рат...

По јавним и државним преузећима у Бгд-у,потписују се ратни распореди, постављају се сирене за узбуњивање и ако томе додамо потенцирање наоружавања ,наруџбине из русије-белорусије , саблсани возови на путу за косово, босански лонац , све то не мирише на добро...:(

Ко би иоле при здравој памети кренуо у нове крваве балканске ратове ?staniiiiiii

 

Možda je samo  vežba u pitanju.Sad si ti ispovezivao to u neke ratne pripreme.Ne paranoišite.

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пре 3 минута, Филозоф рече

Da, da trla baba lan...

A kad prva puska pukne svi junaci nikom ponikose. Za koga da se ratuje i za koje teritorije majke ti? Za kosovo da ratujemo? Sto da nece mozda Kosovari da se vrate da zive dole? Ili Krajisnici u Krajinu? smesne price

 

Prvo KiM.Mada ti čim držiš zastavu Amerike jasno je da je tebi samo novac svetinja.Ti bi gino jedino za pare.

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пре 4 минута, Kratos рече

Prvo KiM.Mada ti čim držiš zastavu Amerike jasno je da je tebi samo novac svetinja.Ti bi gino jedino za pare.

Vazi samo prvo da osnujemo koloniju na Marsu, pa onda mozemo i KiM da vratimo. Prvo ono sto je verovatnije, idemo polako Kosovo je odmah posle

 

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пре 13 минута, Nikola Stojanov рече

JOS NAS IMA KOJI SMEMO ZA SRBIJU DA POGINEMO !!! 

Верово или не,има и нас,који смемо за Србију да живимо... 

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пре 18 минута, Nikola Stojanov рече

JOS NAS IMA KOJI SMEMO ZA SRBIJU DA POGINEMO !!! Naravno da niko rat ne zeli ali kad se mora onda otadzini mora da se odazove i da se pomogne !! Srpsko nacionalno pitanje na Balkanu nije reseno cak je jos vise zakomplikovano nakon potonjih ratova i mesanja nato-a u balkanska pitanja ! Srpski narod je duhovno,ekonomski,demografski i kuturno osakacen prakticno unisten i doveden u status polu kolonijalnog naroda a takva perspektiva nasim pokolenjenima ne daje zdravu sansu za opstanak osim ako mi tu nesto ne promenimo ! Srbima treba sto pre neka jaka politicka,diplomatska ili u krajnjem slucaju vojna pobeda da opet malo dodjemo do nacionalnog daha i da nas narod stvori realnije uslove za opstanak na nasoj vekovnoj zemlji !

:dobro::mahmah:

Široko vam polje!

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пре 16 минута, Филозоф рече

Sto da nece mozda Kosovari da se vrate da zive dole? Ili Krajisnici u Krajinu? smesne price

 

Svi se nastanili po Bg-u i većim gradovima, će da se vraćaju po onim zabitima svojim :smeh1:, pa oni prvi ne bi ratovali :smeh1:.

 

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